Thursday, November 6, 2008

Racial Polarisation and the Forging of Bangsa Malaysia


We Kelantanese are not amenable to beating around bushes. We are not a pantun and seloka
society. And we do not partake in gurindam and puisi to express our thoughts. We are simpler, more straightforward, more robust, with a clarity of thought and tenacity of purpose reflective of our history and existence as a frontline state against T’ai Buddhist expansionism. Our other half, the old Malay kingdom of Patani, was overrun and annexed in 1902, and today three million Malays there simmer under Thai occupation. Kelantan extricated itself in the nick of time in 1909. Otherwise, KijangMas would be posting as ศรกนกกระจง from กรุงเทพมหานคร.

Our 1,500 year history (from the era of the Ch’ih-tu and Langkasuka kingdoms) are dotted with epic battles for survival, with Kelantan-Patani warriors recorded in the historical annals of Burma, Siam, Cambodia, Champa, Vietnam and all the way down the Malay Peninsula and across to Java, Makasar and beyond. We are a martial race. Our survival as a people throughout 600 years of T’ai aggression was dependent on our capacity to meet these attacks head on, blow for blow, though at times we were outnumbered 5 to 1 on the battlefield. We couldn’t afford to beat around bushes and circumvent issues and hope the problems will go away. No, we face issues head on, albeit with political finesse and diplomatic panache only an old, socially cohesive race could muster.

Our Wayang Kulit invariably ends with epic battles transcending the bumi and kayangan
between powerful forces of good and evil, where the Sri Rama ultimately prevails over a thoroughly vanquished enemy. Our stories are conclusive. Nothing is left to conjecture and interpretations, as in the case of convoluted cerpens. And this conclusiveness shaped our mindset -- as the children of the Sri Rama.

We are hardy, tenacious and self-reliant. That’s why the Kelantan-Patani tribe are found everywhere on earth, from California to London to Makkah and beyond. We are not amenable to self-pity or indulge in a fatalistic disposition. Traditionally, we did not partake in these luxuries as our collective energies were focused on the ceaseless invasions from the north. The weak and the unindustrious are long gone, having perished in battles and leaving no progenies to perpetuate their inadequacies. We couldn’t relate to the guilt and sadness-laden dramas and cerekaramas dished out by the West Coast Malay, what I term the Riau Malay. We view things as they are, although we say things with refined subtlety reflective of our old civilization. We hardly raise our voices. We don’t use hand gestures as props. We say what we need to say softly but assuredly in our idiom-rich vocabulary. And we mean what we say.

On this basis, I will address the issue of our country’s sick ailment – Racial Polarisation – in the way it should be addressed – with the frankness and granularity only a child of the Sri Rama
could expound.

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Why all this fuss about racism?

Malaysia is, by definition, a “racist” country. Yes. Stop kidding ourselves. We are all racists. In fact, Racism defines the dynamics of Malaysia’s socio-political framework. Our nation was forged via an incoherent rendition of pragmatic ethnocentrism that has been in a state of perpetual disequilibrium ever since. Indeed, this is the only country on earth in this day and age where racial distinction is institutionalized and, in a perverse legitimization of this incongruity, touted as a plus factor.

At every opportunity, the Rakyat are reminded of their “race” and place in the “multiracial” and “multicultural” milieu, with pervasive reinforcement literally from cradle to grave.

The authorities further affirmed this racial consciousness by proclaiming:



in glitzy tourism promotions, where distinctly different individuals dressed in “national” costumes of the Malay states, various Borneo tribes, Southern China, Tamil Nadu, Portugal and the Punjab somehow revel in a celebration of ethno-cultural diversity in this “host” land known as Malaysia.

The tombstone in the Tourism Malaysia portal says it all:-

In the heart of Asia lies a land of many cultures, wonders and attractions. With a sparkling and lively melting pot of races and religious (sic) where Malays, Chinese, Indians and the many ethnic groups of Sabah and Sarawak live together in peace and harmony, Malaysia is truly a country that epitomises Asia.

Such a diversity of ethnic groups inevitably features a large number of spoken languages. The official local language is Bahasa Melayu, but then English is widely spoken as are a number of Chinese dialects. Various other languages are spoken and East Malaysia features several other indigenous languages.

With such obvious diversity, it is remarkable that racial tension is not a constant problem but clearly the gentleness and tolerance of the local population contributes to a real spirit of peace and harmony.


Who wrote this … I’m sorry to say … mythology?

Some White kid at Saatchi & Saatchi New York? What “melting pot of races and religions” are we talking here? How about “boiling cauldron of intolerant racists and zealots”? Why are we presented like some kind of multicoloured, multiphonic happy, cuddly little socio-artifacts in some fantasy vacationland?!

Tell the truth la!

Long-winded corporate adverts to mark Merdeka, Hari Raya and assorted ethno-religious festivities are also littered with more fantasized scenarios of a multiracial, multicultural, multireligious and multi-whatever populace co-habitating tolerantly while celebrating their glorious diversity in a utopian land of opportunity for all.

Mana ada?

Again, we beat around the bush, ignore the inconvenient truth, and kid ourselves with snazzy ads. And the longer we deceive ourselves with this multiracial fantasy, the harder it takes to build a cohesive, unified nation.

We Malaysians have lived in this fairytale for too long, and this blissful fantasy is now crumbling under the very weight of its own ludicrousness. Nobody really believed in this cosmopolitan utopia set against the backdrop of our complex ethnocentrist and messy social milieu.

As a start, we do not even have a proper common LANGUAGE. What is there to share if we can hardly communicate our mutual hopes and aspirations, with the linguistic connection between the racial divide bridged only via gross dilution of syntax and context, and with our true feelings often lost in translation somewhere.

Let me be frank here and express my thoughts in this quasi-common, compromised language of the masses:-

Mana ada ini macam lain tempat? Mana boleh lu cakap lain bahasa, gua cakap lain bahasa, itu orang pun cakap lain bahasa? Mana boleh semua orang keras kepala mau cakap sendiri punya bahasa? Ini negara Malaysia, kita kena cakap Bahasa Malaysia. Apasal susah sangat? Lu pergi Jepun lu kena cakap Jepun. Lu pergi China lu kena cakap Mandarin. Lu pergi England lu kena cakap Inggeris. Lu pergi Rusia lu kena cakap Rusia. Kita sama-sama duduk Malaysia lu tak mau cakap Bahasa Malaysia? Kenapa? Malaysia “special case” ka? Siapa cakap? Siapa bikin ini macam? Dalam semua-semua Negara dalam ini dunia, apasal Malaysia kena jadi “special case”? Untuk siapa? Lu atau gua?

Feel better now? Yes and No?

Never mind. Swallow that bitter pill, defy your tribal instinct to either revel or resist and read on.

Sadly, but you have to be a “racist” in Malaysia because Malaysia is touted as a “multiracial” country. There must be a perverted, kafkaesque logic in there somewhere. But it’s beyond me. From primary school, our children are implored to live harmoniously among the various “races” in our “multiracial” country. Racial awareness is hence institutionalized at a very young, impressionable age. This racial distinction is further reinforced by petty racial profiling and prejudices in media programming and commercial adverts.

By the time our children enter the Sekolah Menegah, they are already supra-ethnocentrists and intolerant of other races and this fact is for all to see in our segregated urban playgrounds and street corners. And by college-going age, these Racist Beings are already beyond redemption, spoiling for a fight at the sight of other racists of other ethnic groups. Why should we wonder then that our universities are hyper-polarised along ethnic lines, where the animosity among the dominant Malays and the ethnic minorities are so palpable, so granular.

We are somehow told to “take pride” of our “multi-racial, multi-cultural” country, as if this is a preferred trait in achieving cohesive statehood. Of course it is not the case. The constant reminding of our “multi-racial, multi-cultural” essence breeds further explicit consciousness of our “race,” and this has now permeated every facet of our lives 24/7.
Should we then wonder why we have all become so utterly Racists? This hyper-ethnocentrism inevitably propagates further ethno-chauvinist tendencies, as each “race” outdo one another to stamp their racial identity in a grotesque manifestation of tribalism gone mad. Now imagine when this ethnic belligerence flare across a permutation of 40 ethnic, tribal and assorted suku kaums.

Even sports are caught up in this crippling racial imbroglio. Pay TV operator, Astro, somehow deemed it cute and proper to spin short promo clips of Malaysian Olympians talking in their “mother” tongues. Lee Chong Wei and other ethnic-Chinese Malaysian athletes uttered their hopes in Mandarin, likewise others spoke in Tamil and English. Only ethnic-Malay Olympians spoke in Bahasa Malaysia, as if the National Language has been relegated to be on par with the other languages and only applicable to the Malays. I’m sure many of us would be interested in Lee Chong Wei’s aspirations. But we will never know because he is speaking in the national language of China and not even the Hokkien or Cantonese of his household! So in effect, barely a fifth of Malaysians knew what the heck Lee Chong Wei and the ethnic-Chinese Malaysian Olympians were saying and seven percent or less could comprehend the Tamil utterances of the ethnic–Tamil athletes. Hence, is it really a wonder why Lee Chong Wei’s endeavour to Olympic Silver was not followed with the passion of the past by the nation and hardly celebrated upon his triumphal return? Why no open top motorcade processions in the kampungs di setiap pelusuk tanah air, like the 1992 Thomas Cup heroes? Because Mandarin-speaking Chong Wei was not regarded as “one of us” by the ubiquitous Malay masses out there?

What was Astro trying to prove?

I think it is scandalous. I’m sure no nation on earth would even contemplate staging this misguided, divisive charade. Have we ever heard Arnold Schwarzenegger utter anything in German? And he is not even American-born, having migrated from Austria. How about French footballer Robert Pirés talking Portuguese on French TV just because his parents were Portuguese immigrants? Or German soccer stars Miroslav Klose and Lukas Podolski speaking their "native" Polish on German TV? What about President Nicholas Sarkozy, a first generation Frenchman of Hungarian and Greek Jewish parentage? Any Hungarian or Greek pride in this diminutive man? Of course not. He is totally assimilated and is today the epitomy of Frenchness and leader of the Francophone World.

Where would Barrack Obama be if he insisted on conversing in his father’s native Swahili? Well, he wouldn’t be the U.S. president-elect for sure. The governor of Louisiana,
Bobby Jindal, is the son of Indian immigrants. Do you think he got elected for his Hindi oratory skills in Cajun Country?

And here you have 3rd-4th generation Malaysians uttering messages for our Bangsa Malaysia TV audience in the national language of China and main language of India’s Tamil Nadu state.

Astro falls under what ministry? Mana Shabery Cheek? What about the MCMC? Or is this under Shaziman Mansor’s ministry? I would like someone up there to ask Astro’s Ralph Marshall and Rohana Rozhan why they deem this stunt as proper in the context of Malaysian nation building? Or have they outsourced their programming to a bunch of foreigners totally devoid of our national aspirations in their attempt to be creatively cute to justify their exorbitant fees?

At this rate, our march towards national integration under a singular, cohesive identity is bleak indeed.

Events such as the Olympics, where our athletes are supposed to represent the country as a cohesive, united nationalistic Malaysian Race -- as uttered in our battle hymn, “Satu Bangsa, Satu Negara, Malaysia Berjaya” – would require complete cohesion with a sense of shared destiny, not a patchwork of variegated ethnic groups, tribes and suku kaums whose only affinity with one another is their mutual contempt and suspicion.

Let me ask this question that I know is in the minds of the majority of Malaysians.

Why must Malaysia be compelled to account for every race, ethnic group and suku kaums under her flag in everything we do? Even in the sports teams we assemble? In tourism promotions? In government and corporate events?

Come on lah. This is a COUNTRY, not a loose association of races and tribes; not a collection of connoisseurs of foreign languages and costumes languishing in self-contained cocoons; not a tenuous conglomeration of estrange peoples.

This is not a half-way-house, a transit point – a rumah tumpangan -- for people to languish prior to their resettlement in their ultimate countries of choice one or two centuries after the arrival of their forefathers to these shores. Citizens of our blessed land must have a sense of permanence in this country. Citizenship and permanence go hand in hand. And these come with obligations. It is our obligation as permanent citizens of this country to strive for unity under a common Bangsa Malaysia identity underpinned by a common language, Bahasa Malaysia.

I've travelled far and wide and lived in many countries. Every country I've visited possess a strong sense of nationhood, a solid identity, a national philosophy, a national character. Of course, many are multi-ethnic as well, but their societies are forged by common values, a shared history, and a collective vision underpinned by a common dominant language. But sadly NOT in our beloved Malaysia. We have become a nation of ethnic ghettos and enclaves, a patchwork of estrange peoples languishing in a tense, stressful and simmering land.

This is NOT how you build a nation. There must a base of shared values and socio-cultural norms and a sense of shared destiny. Of course, we may be of different origins, but we cannot go forward as a nation via divergent, distinct paths in language, education, social norms and aspirations.

The Federation of Malaysia was not designed to host a collection of mini Kwangtungs, mini Tamil Nadus, mini Keralas and mini Punjabs superimposed on a flailing Malay canvas. And now we have to contend with an embryonic mini Surabaya, mini Kathmandu, mini Dakar, mini Saigon and mini Yangon, and soon mini Lagos and mini Nairobi.

Is this really tenable? Enough of this stupidity. Cukup lah!

If this model works, then nation states would be obsolete across the world. But human society does not evolve nor function this way. There must be conformity. There must be cohesion. There must be singularity of purpose that transcends parochial sentiments.

The 51-year Malaysian experiment to loosely weld a polygot of multiracial, multicultural, multi-whatever existence has been an utter failure. At this rate, we'll be a failed state, destroyed by the Rabid Racists and Anarchists with no real affinity to this land.

Countries have rules, countries have norms, countries have solid underlying bases that define their nationhood. And a common unifying language is always the cornerstone of this foundation. Plus a set of values, a national philosophy. Yes, we have the Rukunegara. Now, say the five tenets out loud to yourselves. Say it out loud in perfect, assertive Bahasa Malaysia. Can you or can’t you? If you can, bravo. Your stint at the Sekolah Kebangsaan was not in vain. If you can’t, take a good look at yourself in the mirror. Now you know what a confused, stateless pathetic loser looks like?

O.k., what does the Rukunegara really mean? Remember the fifth tenet, Kesopanan dan Kesusilaan? Have Malaysians exhibited sufficient kesopanan lately? How come being sopan (the antithesis of biadap and kurang ajar) seemed an excruciatingly elusive trait among many of us? Can we even comprehend the meaning of Keluhuran Perlembagaan? Or do we think it is chic, an in-thing, to bring into disrepute everything under our perlembagaan? See what happen to our lives when we have no common national ideology, national philosophy, national agenda, no sense of shared destiny and when we lack the necessary profound respect of our Negara and appreciation of our Rukunegara.

What happened to our cohesive, triumphal sports teams? Remember our football and hockey teams of the sixties, seventies and eighties? And our Thomas Cup winners of 1992? Recall how cohesive they were and how patriotic we were then? Remember our 1975 World Cup hockey team? We almost made it to the final if not for two heartbreak goals by ultimate champions India. Yes, we were perched on top of the world. Remember our Bangsa Malaysia hockey team of that period? Khairuddin Zainal the rock in goal, skipper Sri Shanmuganathan marshalling the defense with authority, and Poon Fook Loke the bane of opposing defenses. They were Anak Malaysia, they were Bangsa Malaysia, they were our Pasukan Kebangsaan! What’s the state of Malaysian hockey now? We cannot even make the cut to a crowded 12 team field in the Beijing Olympics. What happened to the Foo Keat Songs, Sarjit Singhs and M. Mahendrans of Malaysian hockey? How come Malays now dominate our hockey scene? Do we have to blame this on the NEP as well? I don’t recall any 70% quota on national representation? Has our Kementerian Belia dan Sukan given much thought on this phenomena? Is Ismail Ahmad Sabri a sportsman to begin with? At least Azalina Othman Said looked the part, with taekwando black belt, girlfriend and all.

Hockey was the domain of Tamil and Punjabi Malaysians. How come the offpsrings of the Sri Shans and the Sarjits don’t partake in hockey anymore? Perhaps that may explain this uneasy restlessness, a hopeless sense of having nothing to look forward to so pervasive in our Indian brothers. Is this one reason they are now so easily mobilised to fight for a cause they don’t quite understand and to take to the streets in large numbers just for the heck of it? Is this a way to dispense their unused youthful energy and to search for the elusive Indian Malaysian heroes and role models? Did the selfish racists of Hindraf took advantage and filled this gap? Have Waythamoorthy and Uthayakumar become the new Sri Shans and M. Mahendrans, the much-need perwiras for the Indian Malaysians, albeit for a twisted, divisive cause?

Now, how about football?

Did we view our football legends, Mokhtar Dahari, Soh Chin Aun, R. Arumugam and Santokh Singh, through race-tinted lenses? Of course not. They were members of the Bangsa Malaysia team that reigned supreme in Asia, even won the Bronze at the 1974 Teheran Asian Games and qualified for the 1972 and 1980 Olympics. Remember when Malaysian football dominated Southeast Asia and was superior to South Korea, Japan and the West Asian teams that are today regular attendees in World Cups?

Can we recall Chin Aun, Arumugam and Santokh talking on TV in any other language but Bahasa Malaysia? Of course not. They were proud members of Bangsa Malaysia, confidently speaking in one voice. Chin Aun – the Babaesque Malacca native -- was the unquestioned skipper, leader and libero for a decade. He was the Towkay. Remember? Would we ever have another ethnic-Chinese captain of the Malaysian football team? Heck no. Forget that question. Let’s make it simpler. Can anyone name one ethnic-Chinese player in our current pasukan kebangsaan? No? Remember when we had Chow Chee Keong or Lim Fung Kee or Wong Kam Fook in goal; Chin Aun in defense; Wong Choon Wah the midfield general; and Yip Chee Keong in attack – all on the same field for Malaysia at the same time? Later came the likes of Lim Chuan Chin, Ong Yu Tiang, James Wong, Wong Hung Nung, Lee Kin Hong, Chow Siew Yai, Khan Hung Meng, Tang Siew Seng and Lim Teong Kim. These were fantastic players, many good enough to pursue professional careers in foreign lands.

What happened since? The 21-member Malaysian team in the recent Merdeka Cup consists of 20 Malays and a lone ethnic-Tamil reserve. The ethnic-Chinese are nowhere to be seen.

Indeed, the Chinese have somehow stopped playing football as our playgrounds and football fields become segregated by ethnicity and language – a direct fallout of the segregation of schools. Football is an overwhelmingly Malay sport now, with a sprinkling of “kampung Tamils” to spice up the proceedings with their penchant for theatrics and overdribblings. In the glory years of the seventies, the multi-ethnic crowd at Merdeka Stadium would rally and root voraciously for our pasukan kebangsaan and heckle the opponent in Bahasa Malaysia, spiced with a potpourri of pidgin Malay street slang in banter. The Ahmads of Kg. Baru, the Ah Mengs of Pudu and the Krishnans of Brickfields would jump on their seats and hugged one another at the sight of yet another blistering Mokhtar Dahari goal set up by Choon Wah’s sublime cross. We were a cohesive group of 45,000 screaming and laughing members of Bangsa Malaysia at Merdeka Stadium. On many occasions, I was there as a member of this Bangsa Malaysia. I can vividly recall our 1977 KL SEA Games Dream Team that trashed then-Burma 9-1 and overpowered Thailand 2-0 in the final. In fact, I can still utter their names as they are etched in the collective memories of my generation.

Heck, I’ll say it now as they deserved to be remembered for posterity. This team of seven Malays (Jamal Nasir, Yahaya Jusoh, Abdah Alif, Shukor Salleh, Bakri Ibni, Isa Bakar and Mokhtar Dahari), two ethnic-Chinese (Soh Chin Aun and James Wong), an ethnic-Tamil (R. Arumugam) a Punjabi Sikh (Santokh Singh) and a Sarawak Dayak substitute (James Yaakub) were the embodiment of the Malaysian Race, the Bangsa Malaysia. These were the idols of Malaysian sports fans across the land. The Malaysian football team was our team, the Bangsa Malaysia team. At the neighbourhood padang, my gang took turns to mimic Arumugam in goal and Chin Aun as the libero and, of course, SuperMokh, Mokhtar Dahari. My buddy, Ow Chak Yoon would mimic the RTM running commentary as the rest of us scurry after the tattered football; his impersonation of Zulkarnaen Hassan in ecstasy over a Malaysian goal was uncanny, surreal, and reverberates in my ears whenever I look at old faded photographs of my classmates. Oh yes, every ethnic-Chinese in my Standard Six class wanted to be Mokhtar Dahari on the field. I always imagined I was the great Chin Aun, elegantly caressing the ball with imperious presence in the Malaysian backline. Race was never an issue. These football legends belonged to all of us Bangsa Malaysia, speaking in one voice, striving for the same goal.

Three decades later, our sports teams have degenerated into a collection of Mandarin, Tamil and English- and Manglish-speaking individuals, with Bahasa Malaysia uttered only by the Malays, and even that in mutually-unintelligible Kelantanese, Kedahan and assorted Borneo dialects. No wonder we have become minnows in team sports, where team mates could hardly communicate, let alone strategise. Our football team is now ranked 160 by FIFA, sandwiched between such powerhouses as Lesotho and St. Lucia. Where the heck is St. Lucia? Our hockey team has all but dissipated under the astroturf. Our badminton team is a shambles.

These are just a small sampling of the price we all pay for our lack of national unity, lack of national identity, lack of national cohesion.

I think it is utterly Scandalous. Kita semua sudah gila ka?

Is our fragmented social existence a tenable long-term proposition, not just in sports but in our daily affairs as a sovereign nation under one flag?

No.

Is the people to blame? Do you blame the kucing when your lauk kena curi on the dinner table?

No.

The government is the biggest culprit of all. Since the Pak Lah era, we are constantly bombarded by decrees reminding us that kita adalah negara berbilang bangsa and these various bangsas must hidup bersama dalam suasana harmoni dan aman damai sejahtera. Again, I sense a high degree of idiotic oxymoronist irony here. First the populace are incessantly reminded that they are different from one another. Then they are told to live together in peace and harmony. Hence, a confused populace are asked to co-exist amidst their distinctions. The human mind – indeed, the instinct of every creature created by God -- doesn’t work this way. We naturally search for commonalities, affinities and comfort zones of socio-cultural familiarity. We don't embrace alien cultures as a natural behaviourial trait. And these very distinctions are constantly unearthed and embellished by a government that concurrently implore us to unite. See the dichotomy? The utter contradiction? Why the need to constantly remind the people of their ethnic specificities? Why the need to reaffirm everyone’s ancestry and their mutual distinction, knowing full well that these elements are the very impediments to social cohesion?

How can the people unite when they are constantly reminded of their differences and encouraged to affirm their race in everything they do? Even the long-integrated groups such as the Malaccan and Penang Babas and Nyonyas have relapsed to being Chinese with a vengeance. Their refined 500-year culture, a truly Malaysian heritage, has been obliterated by their mimicry of the more recent arrivals and the culture of the Hong Kongers and mainland Chinese. That’s an irreplaceable heritage dissipating right in our midst and we are doing nothing about it.

This quest for diversity has become ridiculous. It’s just stupid! Bodoh!!!

Our neighbours Thailand and Indonesia are actually ethnically more heterogeneous than ourselves. But can you find a Thai tourism brochure promoting the country’s “multiracial” Chao Phraya T’ai, Krung Thep Chinese, Patani Malay, Mon, Khmer, Lao, Isaan, Lanna T’ai, Korat T’ai, Hilltribes and Sea Gypsy populace? No. They are all “Thais,” a new race concocted by Field Marshall Phibun Songkhram via his 1938 Thai Ratthaniyom decree where, under threat of severe penalties, every one of these ethnic groups must speak Thai (based on the Bangkok Siamese dialect), act Thai, be Thai and assume Thai names living in a unitary Ratcha Anachak Thai (ราชอาณาจักรไทย) guided by the principles of Chad Sassana Pramahakasat (Nation, Religion, the King).

What about Indonesia, with hundreds of ethnic groups, languages and cultures? Do Indonesian travel brochures utter: “Come to the land where the (… try to utter this out loud in one breath …) Javanese, Sundanese, Maduran, Minang, Malay, Achehnese, Batak, Buginese, Moluccan, Dayak, Balinese, Baweanese, Bengkuluan, Sumbawan, Torajan, Papuan, … ad nauseam live happily ever after.” Of course not. They are all proud Indonesians. Period.

But aren’t we a glorious melting pot of races and cultures and languages and ways of life and philosophies living together in splendid harmony?

No. Sorry but no.

There is no racial harmony in Malaysia. A state of “Harmony” exists only when you have cohesion, a coalescence of dynamic forces in a singular trajectory towards a common goal. Do we have this in Malaysia after 51 years of nationhood? No. Enough of this dondang sayang beating around the bush approach to the problem.

Listen, “melting pot of races and religions” and “living together in peace and harmony” are mutually exclusive sociological conditions. The Homo sapiens sapiens – yes, lu dan gua – are social animals that are mentally calibrated to function optimally in a cohesive group defined by shared affinities. This later gave rise to tribes and races and nation-states of common societies. This is basic human nature. And when you fight human nature -- when you force feed these tribes on a diet of “living together in peace and harmony” with other tribes -- you will take the “human” out of the human and he/she will revert back to his/her basic animalistic instinct – the primal need to not only survive but to prevail and thrive at the expense of others. When all Malaysians are driven and dominated by this intrinsic primal instinct to survive and thrive at the expense of "the others," we then become a train wreck-in-waiting, hurtling uncontrollably into the crevasse of national anarchy and ruin.

If our multiracial, multi-everything prescription works, then nation states would be obsolete and the planet would be one big happy family, where the Germans and Spanish and Russians exist in a seamless polity; where the Chinese, Koreans and Japanese bow to the same flag of their amalgamated multicultural motherland; where the Persians, Kurds, Arabs and Turks ……. no? Of course not.

No. The point is: Every nation encapsulate a dominant, pervasive socio-cultural essence, a singular identity that defines their populace. A collage of distinct ethno-cultural groups co-existing precariously on a brittle platform of Muhibbah-by-convenience do not make a nation. We must, therefore, go back to the basics of nationhood. We must have a national identity, driven by a common national language and a set of common values etched in stone. We must extinguish the differentiations that alienated ourselves and that gave rise to the primal instinct to survive amidst competing tribes.

Why so susah one?

We already have Bahasa Malaysia and the Rukunegara. Mau apa lagi? Why so difficult? Mau wang ka? 10 sen for every Bahasa Malaysia word uttered in public? Do we need to be bribed or threatened to do what is essentially our obligation as citizens of this country? This is an outrage. What kind of people have some of us turned into? Sick little calculative hostile selfish monsters?








We don’t have to look far to find a tenable model of nationhood. Look at Kelantan. The Kelantanese populace – predominantly and overwhelmingly ethnic-Malays with a small but industrious ethnic-Chinese community as well as the Orang Asli and a smattering of T’ais -- regard themselves as Oghé Kelaté, cohesively united by a common, inclusive and pervasive Kelantanese dialect, outlook, self-image and culinary preference, where ethnicities are blurred by a strong sense of “Kelantan-ness.” A Kelantanese Malay would be more at home with his ethnic-Chinese compatriot than with a fellow Malay from, say, Perak or Johor. Likewise for the Kelantanese Chinese.

But this is not the case for the rest of the country.

Why? What went wrong?

In the West Coast states, many of the “Malays” themselves are descendants of fairly recent Nusantara migrants with minimal affinity to the land beyond the navigable riverbanks. Add to the cauldron the descendants of ethnic-Chinese mining coolies, Tamil labourers, Sikh policemen, Siamese itinerant farmers, and an eclectic sprinkling of Portuguese creoles and mestizos plus the myriad of Borneo suku kaums -- all of whom are pursuing an intolerant ethnocentric stance – and we, indeed, have a combustible pot of social anarchy and mayhem. This curdling cauldron, lacking in a unifying national identity or a sense of a common stake, is fast dismantling our sense of nationhood, a process that may be complete when it boils over at any moment.

The peculiar government strategy of reinforcing each and every ethnic group as unique in this country – further exacerbated by rabidly chauvinistic ethnic-based political parties appealing to the ever growing radical fringe of their communities – is breaking our national cohesiveness. We have reached a point where the races live in their own distinct parallel universe oblivious to the existence of the other groups unless out of sheer necessity, in which case their Worlds collide in a calamity of intolerance, contempt, suspicion and incompatibility.

Is this really a tenable model of nationhood? What is a “nation” anyway? Let me ask, can a nation survive when significant segments of its citizens steadfastly subscribe to the linguistic and cultural identity of other nations, hence creating pesky little embedded nations within a nation?

The plain vanilla Matnor, Kok Leong and Ragu plus the odd Kuldeep Singh that were my playmates on the bumpy primary school field of Section 11, PJ in the early 1970s, have now morphed into intolerant, barely recognizable ethno-chauvinist monstrosities curdling with anger and belligerence, waiting to “pounce” at the first sign of “Racism” by other ethnic groups while oblivious to the fact that they themselves are the uber racists.

Enough talk. How do Malaysia break out of this self-induced socio-toxicity?

Well, racism will be obliterated from the Malaysian consciousness only if Malaysia evolves into a homogeneous society defined by nationality, the proverbial and oft-quoted Bangsa Malaysia, the Malaysian race.

What then is the Malaysian race?

What language should a Malaysian speak?

What culture and mannerisms?

What shared values and philosophies?

What inner-consciousness?

What sense of shared identity?

What sense of shared destiny?


These are questions that must be addressed by our national leadership, taking into account the aspirations of the majority of the populace. Didn’t the Duli-Duli Yang Maha Mulia Raja-Raja Melayu envisioned a federation of Malay states yang di bentuk dalam arca Melayu, underpinned by adat-adat Melayu, speaking in one voice in Bahasa Melayu? While the rights of minorities and naturalised immigrants to practise their dialects and cultures within their own communities are safeguarded, it was never meant to be a national affair, to be perched on par with the Budaya Melayu berlandaskan Bahasa Melayu dan Agama Islam. No. The language, culture, image, norms, indeed, the national identity of Malaya is predominantly Melayu, and with the formation of Malaysia, incorporate the native cultures of the Borneo states as well. This stance must be enforced vigorously.

Start by enlightening the populace of this national identity framework. And refrain from blindly projecting non-native costumes and cultures from far away lands in our tourism promotional media. As for non-Malay and non-Borneo Bumiputra culture, recognise only what came together with the immigrants from China and India. What they carry on their backs upon arrival in Tanah Melayu would be recognised and they can partake in it in the privacy of their own communities. BUT, it is NOT our nation's duty -- by any stretch of either the imagination or the Constitution -- to go searching for "Chinese" and "Indian" cultural relics and costumes and dances in the original motherlands of these naturalised pendatangs and their descendants. Itu sudah lebih. Sudah tidak masuk akal. No Malaysian citizen should be in the business of importing cultural forms of foreign nations into our Tanah Air and "passing them off" as part of our Malaysian heritage. That is treachery of the highest order. Arnold Swarzenegger has not gone back to Austria to bring his ancestral yodeling music form to Kah-lifornia. And Louisiana's Bobby Jindal is more American than the Americans, not more Indian than the Indians as in some cases among Indian Malaysians.

Now lets talk about language – the single-most crucial determinant of national identity and mindset. Bahasa Malaysia, our one and only national language which will form the foundation of our quest to forge a sustainable Bangsa Malaysia identity ......

But wait, do I sense some resistance here? Why? You flaunt your Malaysian citizenship as a matter of hak and you use this hak to the hilt even to the detriment of others BUT you despise all tenets of Malaysian nationhood, not least Bahasa Malaysia as the single, unifying language? So you want HAK without the TANGGUNGJAWAB? Is this part of the Social Contract forged by our founding fathers? I'll be a rich man indeed if I can have such an unconscionable contract in my business affairs.

Why shouldn’t this new Bangsa Malaysia speak Bahasa Malaysia, the national language of Malaysia as enshrined in the Constitution, as the primary language at home, work and play? Why not? Why the reluctance, even abhorrence to do so among some? Remember the line in the stirring patriotic song: “… Satu Bangsa, Satu Bahasa, Malaysia Berjaya.” This was penned in the early 1960s. What happened since? Over 40 years on and a considerable chunk of Malaysians refuse to learn to speak or even acknowledge Bahasa Malaysia as the language of Malaysia, as the single common factor that can bind us as a “race,” as the fundamental platform to nurture and propagate common values underpinning our vision of a Bangsa Malaysia. After 51 years of statehood, many third and fourth generation Malaysians speak Bahasa Malaysia not much better than the Bangla and Nepali migrant workers, at times even worst. And a great many others refuse to utter a single word, almost as a perverse form of protest over nothing.

Indeed, the attitude of many ethnic-Chinese and Indian citizens of Malaysia towards the country’s sole national language, Bahasa Malaysia, is appalling and bordering on the scandalous. I lived in California for the greater part of a decade and had prolonged business stays in Japan, Indonesia, Thailand and many other countries. Without exception, immigrants to these countries took great pains to conform, to assimilate, and to blend into the generic social landscape, lest they’ll be abused and ridiculed. By the next generation, they will be totally immersed in the socio-cultural norm of the host nation. In the U.S., first generation immigrants like Intel’s Andy Grove (real name András István Gróf, a Hungarian émigré); ex-Secretaries of State, Henry Kissinger (Heinz Alfred Kissinger, a German Jew), Zbigniew Brzezinski (Polish-born), and Madeline Albright (Marie Jana Körbel, a Czech-born); Martina Navratilova (Czech-born tennis icon); Arnold Swarzenegger (the Austrian-born actor and now California governor); and Ang Lee (Taiwan-born film producer/director) quickly adopted English and conform to American social norms. Their offsprings would be totally Americanised and indistinguishable from other Americans in terms of language, outlook and mannerisms. Well, look at Barrack Obama, son of a Kenyan father. Do we see him having a tantrum and insisting on Swahili road signs in America? Of course not. Could he have won the American presidency against all odds if he speaks English at the level that most Malaysian Chinese and Indians speak Bahasa Malaysia? Of course not. He'll be run out of town back to Nairobi or Mombasa.

It’s the same closer to home. Thailand is case in point. In the 1930s, ethnic-Chinese make up over 30% of then-Siam’s population. They were vigorously assimilated under Field Marshal Phibun Songkhram’s Thai Ratthaniyom (Thai Customs) Decree of 1938, where their ethnicity was abolished; anyone speaking Chinese in public would be smacked by a 10-ft bamboo stick by the Thai Culture Police; Chinese schools and newspapers were closed; chopsticks were banned; and the Chinese were compelled to adopt Thai names. Within one generation, the Chinese of Thailand was totally assimilated into Thai society to the point where Thais with Chinese blood will today argue with you to the death to prove that they are “Thai” and not Chinese. Ex-PMs Taksin Shinawatra, Chuan Leekpai, Banharn Silpa-Archa and Thanin Kraivichen are all of Chinese origin. But they are true Thais to the core, with no knowledge of the Chinese language or much awareness of their Chinese heritage. Indonesia of course undertook the same process. Batavia in the 1800s was one big Chinatown governed by the Dutch. Nowadays, those claiming “Tiongkok” ancestry number only about 2-3% of the Indonesian population, with the rest totally assimilated into the huge pool of humanity. All assumed Indonesian names. Some years back, when I was in a meeting with senior officials of an Indonesian conglomerate, I made the mistake of asking one of their VPs whether he was Chinese. This very Chinese looking guy (a sort of Ong Tee Keat-look alike) rose up, banged the table and proclaimed: “Ia bapak, memang nenek moyang saya orang Tionghua. Tapi saya anak Indonesia sejati. Jika perlu, Darah saya akan di jadikan warna merah buat bendera Republik Indonesia tercinta!” He went on to mumble some choice words in Javanese with his pribumi colleagues. Myself and the Malaysian team were flabbergasted!

But back home in our Tanah Air, I just don’t understand how these born and bred full-blooded Malaysians carrying MyCards that proudly proclaim their status as Warganegaras speak Bahasa Malaysia like they just arrived off the tongkang from Fukien or Tamil Nadu. Some refused to utter a single word, almost as a sign of protest and silent disobedience. I don’t think I’ve ever heard parliamentarian Loh Gwo Burne or squash star Nicol David or F-1 dropout Alex Yoong or business magnate Tony Fernandes utter a decent sentence in Bahasa Malaysia on TV. So why cry foul when simpleton politicians like Ahmad Ismail label the non-Malays pendatangs? How could he (or myself and others) differentiate these non-Bahasa Malaysia speaking descendants of pendatangs from the more recent pendatangs, who admirably would quickly grasp the National Language out of sheer necessity and a sense of praticality unclouded by blind chauvinism stoked by selfish politicians?

Why this social aberration almost umatched anywhere else on earth?

Is it because Bahasa Malaysia is actually Bahasa Melayu, the Malay language? Does this imply that some Malaysians are disputing the status of Bahasa Malaysia as Malaysia’s national language and lingua franca on account of it being the language of the ethnic-Malays? Has the “Racist” card reared its ugly head again? Who’s the “racist” now? Do we then have to adopt a neutral language, a colonial language such as English, or perhaps concoct a Malaysian Esperanto
as the national language just to appease these “Racists”? Do we need to go to such great lengths just because a segment of our populace are actually “Racists” and would not accept Bahasa Malaysia as the country’s unifying national language and lingua franca even as they go around shouting “Malaysian Malaysia” to their constituents? What Malaysian Malaysia creature are we talking about here? A Malaysian Malaysia speaking the language of British Malaya? A Mandarin-speaking Malaysian Malaysia? A Tamil-speaking Malaysian Malaysia? A Malaysian Malaysia of Pasar Borong Selayang pidgin Malay speakers?

Who are the “Racists” now?

Sorry, but no nation state will survive long without a single unifying language, without a classless ubiquitous lingua franca for the masses. The English language united America’s “hordes of huddled masses” into productive citizens that built a Superpower although Americans of British Ancestry account for less than a third of the population. English also shaped a prosperous Australia. Spanish and Portuguese formed the cohesive basis for the heterogeneous and hybridized nations of Latin America. On the other hand, when two or more languages compete for supremacy, trouble looms. Canada’s Quebec reels from the divisive impasse between her French and English speakers, with font sizes of bilingual signboards becoming political tools of chauvinists and bigots. Multi-ethnic, multi-religious, multi-cultural Yugoslavia is now history, dismembered by a devastating civil war marked by unimaginable ethnic-based atrocities. Sri Lanka’s Sinhalese and Tamils are irreconcilable and the Hutus and Tutsis of Rwanda co-exist in a state of impending calamity.

We Malaysians must choose the correct path towards nation building in light of these incontrovertible precedents.

I must say that opponents of Bahasa Malaysia are nothing more than ignorant chauvinists and bigots. They cannot comprehend the historical and socio-political significance of the language in the region far beyond the borders of Malaysia. Malay (where Bahasa Malaysia came from) has for over a millennium been the unquestioned lingua franca of the Nusantara, the Malay Archipelago, of which the modern nation of Malaysia is but a fragment. In fact, Bahasa Melayu in its earliest written form matched the embryonic Khmer script in terms of antiquity and predated Javanese, Burmese, Thai and most other major languages of the region, with the first documented Malay language inscription dating back to 683 AD found on a stele at Kedukan Bukit near Palembang. That’s over 1,300 years ago. So don’t be fooled by slick anti-Malay propagandists who claim Bahasa Melayu/Malaysia is a young language unsuitable for a globalised world, whatever that jargon means.

From Aceh to Patani to the Sulu Sea, from Jakarta to Surabaya to the Lesser Sunda Islands, from Pontianak to Brunei to Mindanao, from Makassar to Manado to Ambon and to the furthest eastern reaches of the Spice Islands, Bahasa Melayu is the language of commerce, literature and administration. Evey port of call will invariably have a variant of Malay – Melayu Betawi, Melayu Makassar, Melayu Manado, Melayu Kuching, Melayu Palembang, Melayu Medan, Melayu Bengkulu, Melayu Patani, Melayu Ambon, Melayu Kupang, Melayu Singgora, Melayu Lampung, Melayu Brunei, Melayu Banjarmasin, Melayu Langkat and Melayu Asahan although the inhabitants of many of these polities are not ethnic-Malays. The Malay language was the unifying factor of the Nusantara. And today, one can go to Aceh and Patani and the Sulu archipelago and to Manado to Timor and all the way to the darkest jungles of Indonesian Papua – a region wider than Europe or North America -- and will still be able to communicate in a common Malay tongue. Such is the influence of the language.

Remember, trade and political treaties between the European maritime powers and the myriad of polities from Ayutthaya/Siam to the Nusantara kingdoms to Taiwan were mostly in Malay. Indeed, all the hikayats of the region, from the Hikayat Raja-Raja Pasai (1390) of Aceh to the Taj al-Salatin (1600s) and the Hikayat Patani (1600s) to the Tuhfat al-Nafis (1800s) are all in Malay, although the native tongues of their places of origin are hardly intelligible to the average Johor-Riau Malay speaker of that era.

It is, hence, not surprising that the nation of Indonesia, where ethnic-Malays are dwarfed by the Javanese and Sundanese and many other pribumis, adopted Malay as the basis for “Bahasa Indonesia” or the “Indonesian Language.” The landmark Sumpah Pemuda declaration of the guiding principles of Indonesian nationhood on October 28, 1928 by young nationalists proclaimed Malay as Bahasa Indonesia, the Bahasa Persatuan or language of unity for the then Dutch East Indies. Imagine if chauvinist elements insisted on Baso Jawo as the national language of Indonesia? That sprawling nation might not even exist today.

Indeed, the adoption of a single dominant language, the Malay language, has been the most important unifying factor among Indonesia’s 300-odd race, tribes and suku-kaums of 235 million strewn over 17,500 islands. Bahasa Indonesia is also the element that gave the ethnic-Chinese Indonesians equal footing with their pribumi countrymen, where they have no linguistic handicap and no sense of interactive inferiority in their daily affairs. Indeed, it is impossible to differentiate the pribumis and the Tionghua, ethnic-Chinese Indonesians, on account of language or accent, a phenomenon matched in the Malaysian context only in Kelantan and the old Baba community in Malacca.

But for the rest of Malaysia? No. The chauvinist, self-centered and short-sighted political leaders of the ethnic minorities have made language a captive of their drive to steadfastly maintain their communities’ ethnic and cultural specificities, thus reducing this segment of Malaysian society into hostile and belligerent little communal islands and enclaves in a Malay ocean. They view Bahasa Malaysia as the language of the Malays. And since hatred for the Malays is a key component of their chauvinism and bigotry, indeed the relevance and very survival of their political parties, it has become necessary to hate and disown the National Language as well. Yes, the better-educated among them would argue for the importance of English as the international language of commerce and education, but in actual fact these racists are bent on elevating other foreign languages – including Mandarin, the national language of China and not the native language of the ethnic-Chinese citizens of Malaysia – to countervail the status of Bahasa Malaysia in this country. The provocative decision by the DAP government of Penang to erect multilingual signages in that state is a manifestation of this divisive racist agenda. Try this stunt anywhere else on earth and see what happens.

Listen people, this is Malaysia where the national language is Bahasa Malaysia. You know deep down that being Mandarin- or Tamil-literate, combined with a weak grasp of the National Language, would create handicaps in your life here, and would further dilute your sense of belonging to this nation. But no. Your minds have been programmed by chauvinist politicians and community bigots to reinforce your ethnic and linguistic identity that you know would be to your own detriment. So why complain when the inevitable happens, when you feel “foreign” in the country of your birth? Could Chinese, Indian or for that matter Malay immigrants to the U.S., Britain or Australia insist on having their own vernacular education in the host country and expect to progress in subsequent professional and economic endeavours? Of course not. It would be stupid as they would be out of the system, indeed, ostracized by the host society. But why do this in Malaysia? And to expect a different reaction, an alternative result and no adverse repercussion is absurd.

As long as the minority races of this country refuse to play ball with the majority -- beginning with an honest effort to master the National Language; to comprehend and respect the dominant culture and norms; to recognise the key instruments and manifestations of nationhood -- they will never be truly accepted as a part of this nation. The number of generations here is not important. What they have become is the key factor. This is Natural Justice, the Law of the Jungle if you will. This is the case for any nation on earth, and Malaysia is no exception.

As a nation, as part of the Satu Bangsa, Satu Bahasa and Satu Bangsa, Satu Negara mantras of the early 1960s, we need to relook at our nation building approach. We need to recalibrate the trajectory of our sense of nationhood, to prevent our nation from hurtling into the black hole of destruction.

After 51 years of nationhood, the nation’s leadership must not beat around anymore bushes. We have ran out of bushes to beat. We must seriously arrest the degenerative decline right now. Begin by stop highlighting our racial differences. Stop saying we are a multiracial, multicultural, multireligious nation. Stop reminding ourselves to be tolerant of other races, and to live harmoniously in our multiracial society. Stop talking race at every turn. Indeed, ban racial and ethnic classification and identification! We are Bangsa Malaysia, we speak Bahasa Malaysia. But remember, the Arca of this Bangsa Malaysia is the Orang Melayu, the founding fathers of the nation states dotting this Tanah Melayu plus the pribumis of the Borneo states. This unequivocal identity shall be the solid foundation of our nationhood.

Fundamentally, a member of the Bangsa Malaysia should speak the national language of the Federation, Bahasa Malaysia, fluently and as a primary language; be fully versed with adat-adat and tatasusila orang Melayu and other Bumiputras of the Federation; demonstrates respect and deference to Islam as the official religion of the Federation and exhibit traits and mannerisms acceptable to the Malays and other Bumiputras. Non-Malay members of this Bangsa Malaysia may speak in their own dialects in private and may practise their own cultures and religions in the private confines of their community. Also, Budaya Malaysia is based on the budaya of the Malays and other Bumiputras of the Federation – in their various representations.

And the Education System is based on a single, unified Sekolah Kebangsaan system with Bahasa Malaysia as the primary language of instruction.

Later, upon satisfactory cohesion and amalgamation of the Malaysian populace into a truly united Bangsa Malaysia, then by law, ALL references to race and ethnicity in our daily activities should be forbidden.

When will we achieve this raceless paradigm? It is in the hands of each and every one of us. The sooner we embrace the above prescriptions, the sooner we will forge this Bangsa Malaysia.

Yes, the journey towards cohesive nationhood for the Bangsa Malaysia would be perilous indeed. It is not easy to unravel a half-century of segregation and differentiation. But we need to start now. We need to sow the seeds of unity and social cohesion for the next generation.

Only when we have a truly unified Bangsa Malaysia speaking in one language, amenable to Malaysian cultural norms, and with a cohesive Malaysian mindset will we as a nation be able to look beyond the NEP, beyond Malay privileges, beyond safeguarding Malay Rights as we are now all anak Bangsa Malaysia in the arca of the Malays and other Bumiputras of this blessed land.

Measures must be conceived and implemented to forge this Bangsa Malaysia society. Perhaps more assertive measures must be implemented. We cannot, as a proud sovereign nation, go on like this. We just cannot.

Lets discuss this openly, from our hearts, for the love of our Tanah Air tercinta.


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Anonymous said...

1. What is the official language of Malaysia – Bahasa Malaysia http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/780319/+440

2. What is the official language of China? - Mandarin

3. Are you from China?
No I am from Malaysia. But….but....but..(tears flowing)..

Sing to the tune of Tony Bennett (I Left My Heart) In San Francisco tune

The loveliness of Ipoh seems somehow sadly gay
The tons of money I made in Penang is of another day
I've been terribly rich but forgotten in Kuala Lumpur
I'm going home to my city by the Bay

I left my heart in Mainland China
High on a hill, it calls to me
To be where little cable cars climb halfway to the stars
The morning fog may chill the air, I don't care

My love waits there in Mainland China
Above the blue and windy sea
When I come home to you, Mainland China
Your golden sun will shine for me

MY HEART

Anonymous said...

Referrence: ngnglee said... November 24, 2008 10:40 PM


A) ”What is bangsa Malaysia? Seems both of us have different interpretation on it” says you.

What is your version of ‘bangsa Malaysia’ then? Tell us all.

I have this sneaky uneasy suspicious feeling, that your version of ‘bangsa Malaysia’ is actually ‘Malaysian Malaysia’ (whatever that is) with a new packaging . . . containing the same poisonous concoction manufactured in the lion-land to the south . . . the venom of which forced Malaysia to chop off a limb. . . . for fear that it would contaminate other wholesome limbs.

On this count, to quote you, please help me to ‘clear out some space in your (my) mind’, and also another small space in my heart, for like the proverbial foreign body trapped in the eye socket; I need a qualified and trusted partner to clear it for me. No one cannot do it himself.

Can I trust you to do it for me? To clear this nagging indistinguishable gut-feeling survival-of-the-wild?

But before you start to clear out some space in my mind, before you clear out my suspicions and apprehension, (which you read as “fear”, FYI, my “fear” has been hijacked by the Cina Bintang Tiga in the south since before the emergency. Now I regret my loss.) here is a DIY manual.

This manual is purposed-built for this Bangsa Malaysia project.

1) You must first become an Anak Bangsa Malaysia yang mengutamakan dan berbahasa Melayu.

2) Binaan Bangsa Malaysia yang berlandaskan budaya Melayu.

3) Mencontohi rakyat kebanggaan Malaysia seperti “Abdul Azeez Raheem, Reezal Naina Merican, Nor Mohd Yakcop, Zainuddin Maidin, Dr. Zambry Yahya, Shahrizat Jalil, Khadir Sheikh Fadzir and other newly minted Anak Bangsa Malaysia yang berbahasa Melayu dan berlandaskan budaya Melayu. . . . They get it. They know what it takes to thrive in Malaysia via their acts to Masuk Melayu”.
Yang ini kata-kata KijangMas, yang saya telan, dan muntahkan di dalam DIY manual di sini.

B) When all of the above are done, then your call to “throw away our own communal interest” ceased to be any “communal interest” to be thrown away, since all communal interest or ethnicity ceased to exist automatically then.

That's killing ten birds with one stone.

Good day. Lets shake on it and be true friends. Thank you.

Unknown said...

to ngnglee of November 24, 2008 10:40 PM

"Patriotism is essential in forming bangsa Malaysia but bear in mind it is only dedicated to the country itself, not any particular ethnic group and language"

Bangsa Malaysia means speaking Bahasa Melayu and since the Malays are the majority, dedication to the country itself (by default) means to the Malay ethnic group and the Malay language

otherwise you are only an extension of singapore

ngnglee has to brush up on the constitution

Mat Cendana said...

Kijangmas, My Liege (can't call you "Brother"... Yes, I'm quite feudal):

I've just seen this article in Malaysian Insider; about one of your concerns - which incidentally is also mine and that of many here, I feel.

Political will lacking in dealing with Patani issue


BANGKOK, Nov 26 - For the past three decades, old man Fadel has met and talked with Thai security officials about what seems to be a never ending dispute between the Malay historical homeland of Patani and the Thai state.

Not much has changed over the years. If anything, the situation seems to be getting worse if one takes into consideration the level of violence in the southernmost border provinces where more than 3,200 have died since [ CLICK HERE for full article

Anonymous said...

ngnglee said...

“You have a lot of fear on your community, your fear can be traced back to the pre-independent colonial period, that is…50 over years ago… and your fear list still goes on and on.

I can't stop but to ask, how long you still 'intended' to let yourself being conquered by your fear?...”

Well look in the mirror and ask yourself that very questions, ask your parents why, ask your grandparents why… it was centuries after centuries of constant FEAR of everything and even FEAR of your own species that drove millions of fearful creatures to migrate?

These COWARDS will leave their motherland, leave their their women and daughters to RUN for THEIR OWN LIVES! Pokok rimbun tidak berakar! Speak for yourself bro!

We Melayu have nothing to FEAR, whoever came, they knew when to leave, but WE ARE STILL ROOTED HERE?

Even when the Japanese left, they came back to redeem for what they did to MALAYA. My kampong is one beneficiary of this simple gesture. Teams of JICA members on a special project to help lift up the standard of living of the poor communities here.

This beautiful land the TANAH MELAYU. And we are the living prove. Not mythical not fantasies that we can just get to read only from books or watch the operas.

We still have our RAJA RAJA MELAYU, bloodlines from those whose sense of BELONGGING stood against all odds to ensure that we REMAIN on this WONDERFUL LAND, MALAYSIA.

I LOVE MALAYSIA

KijangMas said...

I'm travelling somewhere in the Nusantara right now -- far from civilisation and with rudimentary satellite-based internet access -- BUT I just have to respond to this outburst by "ngnglee" who said:-

"You have a lot of fear on your community, your fear can be traced back to the pre-independent colonial period, that is…50 over years ago… and your fear list still goes on and on ... I can't stop but to ask, how long you still 'intended' to let yourself being conquered by your fear?"

"Fear"?

"Fear"?

"Fear" of what?

"Fear" of who?

"Fear" of "ngnglee"?

So on top of all the other pigsty propaganda, the SRJK(C) Maoist cadres also pollute your minds with this "fear" fantasy in your Tuan Tanah as well uh?

Look, the Orang Melayu fears no one, nothing BUT Allah Subhanahu wa ta'ala.

You want to talk to me about "fear" from the safety of your dingy room on the top floor of your unker's rumah kedai in some slimy Malaysian Chinatown?

Do you know what real "fear" is? Naah, ... that's for another forum, another blog one day.

Anyway, suffice to say that you and your kind are NOTHING. Just the dust, the debu that powders my feet, the habuk, the "duli" yang mencemarkan my tapak kaki.

And nowadays these debus have the audacity to talk up to the Melayu Tuan Tanah on level terms, as if we are on par, makan sepinggan, duduk semeja, tidur sekatil. And these debus now even have the nerve to question the very symbols of our nationhood -- the keris, songkok, jawi, ... even fatwas! -- on a land that MY ancestors forged through centuries of battles and conquests and where countless died defending against foreign invaders. And now these products of the unwashed rejects that rolled off the plank of the rickety tongkang now see it fit to question the fundamental tenets of this land that was created from the blood and sweat of MY ancestors?

Apa sudah jadi?

We have given this "ngnglee" and his/her associated species 51 years (on top of the century or so prior to that) to be worthy of someone called a Rakyat Malaysia.

But what do we get in return?

Excuses, excuses, excuses ...... and more excuses on why they cannot, would not and just plainly refuse to master our National Language, Bahasa Malaysia, and on why they still want to call themselves "Malaysian CHINESE" and "Malaysian INDIAN" and "Malaysian whatever" BUT on the other hand DEMAND equality with the Melayu Tuan Tanah on matters which benefit them.

Folks, as I sit here in the tropical jungle clearing amidst the fresh air and the soft sound of rock-strewn streams and echoes of wild animals, my tribal essence is amplified and permeates my psyche with a clarity, a granularity of thought rarely attained in the concrete jungle. And this tribal instinct tells me that the journey towards the Anak Bangsa Malaysia is marked by insurmountable obstacles and perhaps an exercise in futility simply because "ngnglee" and co. have reached a state of terminal belligerence, they have become communal monstrosities that are no more amenable to reasoning and rational suasion.

I suggest that my own Melayu Tuan Tanahs take time off and spend time in the "wild" and witness the order of nature, a tiger-eat-wild boar-eat-rat-eat-cicak world. As the Harimaus of our Tanahs, maybe we must now contemplate how we should treat these wild boars and other makhluk perosaks running loose and unchecked in our ancestral domain.

Fikirkanlah betul-betul.

Anonymous said...

kijangMas, please accept my apologies if I appear to be taking liberties in posting replies to your commentators, or should I say tormentors, as there are times when a man gotta do what a man gotta to do.

anyway, this is in reply to ngnglee who, I believe, is unaware of the similarities of life with grammar.

yes, you heard me right... as with grammar, life has some hard and fast RULES!

why follow the rules?

... to be understood.

which is more than what can be said when ngnglee wrote, "...Let’s compare apple to apple, does the Malay culture and its language having the same dominant status against minority groups like the Whites in USA? I believe the answer is no..."

since you are a Chinese, you know but never understand... just like your Unker Tommy!

didn't they teach you a thing called article in school? ... would that be a definite no, or an indefinite err... no understand, lor!

so, what are you attempting to compare then... an apple with an apple or apples with apples?

what's the difference?

so, you don't know?

so, typical... knowing but never understanding... incapable of multi-tasking!

ok... here's another freebie.

let's try again... this time with the aid of some adjectives.

so, ngnglee, are you trying to compare a red apple with a green apple?

eureka... do I see a semblance of an emission from that light-bulb hanging above your head... boy, what a thick head!

now, how is one supposed to understand and accept your arguments when your immature, little mind cannot seem to comprehend that there are many varieties of apples.

and, more revealingly, that immature mind is most noticeable when ngnglee wrote, "...Sometimes non-Malay do not speak Bahasa in conference or in their everyday life do not mean they are not patriotic or do not respect the status of Bahasa..."

aiyah,you must be one of those flers who equate only flags and languages as symbols of patriotism... but, then again, that's who you are, correct?

now, how about apples?

it needn't matter if it's red or green... just apples!

was there a reincarnation of Johnny Appleseed that happened in Malaysia that we, Malaysians, should know about?

ok, less cryptic... are apples in season right now in Malaysia?

still too cryptic for you?

are apples endemic to Malaysia?

aiyah, manyak susah lah... ada manyak pokok apel disini, ah?

Malaysia ada banyak pokok rambutan, langsat dan durian, tau?


aiyah, how to have an intelligent conversation with you when you are so unintelligible lah!

I seriously think I should start calling a spade exactly what it should be called... an idiot.

I rest my case.


theBOLDanon

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said... November 25, 2008 3:31 AM
. . “We need to be bombed or attacked by the United States” ...
. . earthquake that'll ravage ...
. . some sort of common enemy ...
. . universal catastrophe that affects every one” ...

Mr Anon dear, have you dropped some coins into some wells somewhere, or accidentally saw some shooting stars some nights somewhere, followed by making any or all of the above wishes? If you have, I hope your wishes come true.

When your wishes come true, this ship will be burning. Then rats, big rats the likes of you and Anon who signed as MY HEART of November 25, 2008 3:55 AM, who in his poem, said he made his tons of money in Penang, who left his heart in mainland China, who yearns the day that he will return home to mainland China and who dreams that the golden sun will shine on him; then rats like him and thousands more will jump overboard. I wish you and those who jump overboard well.

These kinds of maggots, liabilities of the worst kind, would never stay to fight for the country if attacked . . would never risk the smoke and heat to fight the fire if towns and cities are razed to the ground . . would never soil their fingers to tend the wounded and the dying when soldiers are brought down.

At the same we grieve for our good moderate Non-Malay friends. For most of them, the rich and the very rich, would have lost everything. At least they would be wiped out economically. The haves not on the other hand do not suffer that much. After all they have nothing much to loose.

But then again, every cloud has its silver lining. The fallout of such a catastrophe that you wished for will be anarchy, chaos, looting, sufferings and senseless killings. Emergency law has to take over. Then ... then ... Ratthaniyom Malaysian version.

You see Mr. Anon, whatever course you take, you and your kinds are doomed. Your 50-year honeymoon in scenic Malaysia is over. This is the ultimate ‘change’. The final reality. And your prescription takes the shortest time to realize.

Further .. you said ..
“We had one for a brief moment, the British, which brought us together momentarily for the sake of independence.”

To you Mr Anon, this happening, this “British, which brought us together” thing, sounds so rosy and romantic like,
because to you the British hand out a romance,
because to you the British hand out a no-pain-huge-gain-thing,
because to you the British hand out a no-sacrifice-everything-free-hum-de-dum.
because you get to keep everything that’s yours but I get to share with you everything that’s mine.

But to us the TUAN TANAH,
it was pain,
it was humiliation,
it was forced-marriage-for-life-partnership,
it was being-denied-of-our-free-will-and-choice,
it was to take all these with a smile while being kicked on the butt,
it was all because we lebih kurang, (you-diberi-lebih-I-dikurang-kurangkan),
it was all because by nature we like to accommodate (but-forced-to-accommodate-you---make-space-for-you)

Base on all of the above, I would like to put forward these questions:-
WAS THE GAME PLAYED ON LEVEL GROUND MR. ANON?
DID THE BRITISH POLICY MADE THE GROUND LEVEL FOR ME MR. ANON?
ON THIS NON-LEVEL GROUND, WHERE DID THE BRITISH PLACE YOU MR. ANON?
WHY WAS IT SO ROSY AND ROMANTIC FOR YOU MR. ANON?
WHO HAS TO STRUGGLE UP HILL AND WHO HAS TO FREE-WHEEL DOWN MR ANON?

and the cruelest cut (tikam) of all. ...you----- (on-being-accomodated-you-demand-and-damend-and-demand).

Yes. The British brought us together . . . at gun point behind my head. People call it gunship/gunboat diplomacy.

Let’s read what happened on the ground, for the printed lines and in between the lines are too telling, too graphic and too scenic for the actual greasy grounds.

The British came.

The British confiscated the tanah and kedaulatan from the Raja-Raja and Tuan Tanah.

The British brought in the Chinese and the Indians to help them plunder the land.

After 500 years the Duli Raja-Raja and the Malays asked for their tanah and kedaulatan back.

The British said, “I’ll only return them to you, together with the Chinese and the Indians. . . Take it or leave it.”

(What would you do Mr Anon if I take your only thousand ringgit, then when come time to return it, I return 333 to you and the rest to two of my cousins telling you to take it or leave it?

Aside. Talking to himself. The Malays wanted to fight for it. The neighbors will help. Then form Melayu Raya. The Duli Raja-Raja (except one – one ‘gedebe’ Raja) advised to take the offer.

The Malays had to accept, on terms of the VERY-UNLEVEL-PLAYING-GROUNDS above.

The Malays’ kemerdekaan was never a full kemerdekaan, with you and your kinds riding piggy-back.

That’s the best read taken out from the ground. The history books wrote it as a Laila And Majnun fairy tale. I’m curious Mr Anon, . . on whose side would you fight if we decide not to take the offer back then?

I thought so. Just curious. Its only academic. Not taken out from the ground any way.

Just as a land mark. Every time this is brought up, that “you----- (on-being-accommodated----you-demand-and-demand-and-demand)” old wounds breaks anew, scars gets bigger and more sensitive to touch.

These are free-sized caps woven out of frayed guts. Wear them if they fit, otherwise return them.

Unknown said...

"we must now contemplate how we should treat these wild boars and other makhluk perosaks running loose and unchecked in our ancestral domain"

first, boycott all chinese owned business if there is a Malay alternative

if none then set up malay owned businesses

with 70% Malay population, the chinese business interests can be crippled

coz to them money means POWER

they have quietly amassed economic power

they are now in for the political KILL which is what they wanted all along

they want to OWN Tanah Melayu

the south neighbour is facing a recession so this becomes particularly urgent

then HAVE the political will to eradicate the vernacular schools to avoid diverse sections of the rakyat at extreme ends

implement Bahasa Malaysia at ALL levels - education, govt administration, newspapers, mass media including translation of non-malay shows and programmes, etc etc

this is for internal domestic consumption

for international communication there always the "neutral" English language

impose heavy penalties on those who challenge Bahasa Melayu/Malaysia as the national language, in breach of the constitution

enhance the visibility of Malay army, Malay Police force, Malay Navy (just to remind them who is in charge)

hint hint = the keris is only symbolic

that's only for starters ...

Anonymous said...

Makes me want to run out and re-learn Bahasa. So we just all learn this and get rid of BN lah kan?

Haanim

KijangMas said...

To theBOLDanon, no need to apologise. On the contrary, thanks for holding the fort while I'm predisposed with my current travels. Yourself, Tam Dalyell, Omong, SatD, Apocryphalist, Zazaland, Pink Shades and many others are the true perwiras of the blogosphere that would have made my ancestors proud. I sense an irrepressible darah satria boiling in your collective veins.

Kita perlu lebih ramai lagi perwira dan pendekar yang akan pertahankan hak-hak mutlak kita di Bumi keramat kita ini.

Yes, by all means, expound your thoughts and tepis the attacks by these clueless makhluk perosaks and proceed to bury them under the weight of their own ludicrous logic and preposterous rationale.

Anonymous said...

Dear Omong, Anonymous, theBOLDanon and KijangMas, my apology if my statement about the 'fear' has offended you all, I do not expect that kind of strong responses from you all.

I think I should stop the 'fear' talk already, looks like you all are quite sensitive about it?

I have always believed that language is just a communication medium. You can describe an apple simply by writing it, an apple; or use fancy phrases and sentences to describe it, such as elaborating the color, the taste or even the nutrition fact.

But an apple is still an apple...

Oh, and red apple is different from green apple, unless you are colorblind.

My English is not good, so I can save my time for all the fancy sentences.

I will always write an apple as, an apple...

Am I too straightforward? You bet, sometimes the truth is quite hurtful.

Dear Tam Dalyell:

I think it seems ok for me to summarize your version of bangsa Malaysia into one word-assimilation.

Before I explain my understanding on the bangsa Malaysia, I have a question, why do we need to have bangsa Malaysia?

I believe it is the only remedy for the racial polarization

Then, what is the cause for the racial polarization? If we can find out the source and solve the problems we are already half-way through the building of bangsa Malaysia.

Can the assimilation cure the racial polarization?

But before that, mind to let me know what do you think is the cause for the racial-polarisation?

Malaysia is a multi-racial country, it was a fact and will still remains as fact. The federal Constitution was drafted in this premises and this is the only way out for our beloved country.

Raja Muda Raja Nazrin Shah of Perak said "We must embrace multiculturalism":-

Excerpts taken from The Malaysian Insider:

He (Raja Nazrin) pointed out that people of different cultural backgrounds should be allowed to live their lives freely without being forced to do things they do not want to do.

What characterises democratic life is that it is the person who decides whether he or she wants to adjust and be absorbed or remain aloof.

'At the same time, the need to forge a community of people with shared values and interests remains paramount,' he said.

'A pluralistic society is one that not only tolerates but appreciates and encourages the active participation of those of different races, cultures and lifestyles,' he said.

He explained that principles of equality and fairness were necessary to the creation of a "truly pluralistic society."

Multiculturalism, he said, is fast becoming the rule rather than the exception

The following is especially dedicated to KijangMas:

Your arguments and comments are all base on one mindset: you are the Tuan of this land.

Honestly I do not care who is the Tuan of my beloved country, but when somebody tell me my basic citizen right such as equality which is already enshrined in the Federal Constitution is subjected to the jurisdiction of a Tuan, I can’t stop but to ask: who is this Tuan? Where does he get his power of 'Tuan' from? What is the base of his power that allows him to judge the fundamental rights of his fellow countryman?

Federal Constitution, Part II – Fundamental Liberties, Article 8 Clause 1: All persons are equal before the law and entitled to the equal protection of the law.

In case if you don’t know, the word "law" means Federal Constitution-the supreme law of our country.

As a law abiding citizen, I will only refer to the Constitution for my liberty and rights, not any other people.

You are a well educated person and I admire your English standard. Therefore I will expect you to have the same knowledge and understanding on the Federal Constitution.

Well this is only a basic obligation as the citizen, am I right?

Anonymous said...

here are some questions for ngnglee who wrote "...As a fact of nature, strong culture will always dominate the weaker one..."

what is strong culture?

why do they speak English in America?

did the native Americans speak English before the white-settlers arrived?

ironically, why do they call it the English language?

why did you write, "... Let’s compare apple to apple, does the Malay culture and its language having the same dominant status against minority groups like the Whites in USA? I believe the answer is no...?"

did you know that there are no SRJK(C) or SRJK(T) equivalents in America?

could it be that the Americans wouldn't allow other languages to flourish in their land of the free/brave or whatever?

you now live in Malaysia and the national language is... well, Malay!

if you were to live in China, the national language is Mandarin, why?

is Mandarin a language or a dialect?

what is the language of the Chinese?

is it Hokkien? Cantonese? Hakka? what?

what language would a Hakka, Hokkien and Cantonese use to communicate with one another?

so, by your usual series of conjectures, do you consider the Chinese culture to be strong?

if the Chinese has a strong culture why is it that almost a quarter of the world's population can't pronounce the alphabet R correctly?

if the Chinese has a strong culture, then, why is it that almost a quarter of the world's population has speech defects/impediments when speaking in other languages?

if the Chinese culture is strong, then why must the Chinese set up their Chinatown enclaves wherever they live?

if one is strong, then there's no need to fear, is there?

now, who is fearing for the existence of his/her culture's survival?

if the Chinese culture is strong, then why is the Mandarin language still based on characters instead of alphabets?

did you know that animals like monkeys and gorillas communicate by means of groans, grunts and the occasional shriek... the only difference is their inability to allocate characters/symbols/definitions to the sounds that they make?

how do you "spell" words such as internet, websites or computers and, most interestingly, how do you pronounce them in Mandarin?

by the way, is there such as thing as spelling in Mandarin?

do they have spelling bee contests or peraduan mengeja in SRJK(C)?

maybe, re-construction is more appropriate than spelling when talking Mandarin, wouldn't you agree?

did you know that ancient languages became extinct because those languages were based on characters/symbols/definitions?

now we get closer to understanding the Chinese mind... imagine having to learn by rote at least 40,000 of these characters/symbols/definitions just to make up a few thousand words?

and, to make things worse, not every syllable is possible because, in Mandarin, there are rules prohibiting certain phonemes from appearing with others... maybe like the English Q and U.

mind you, that's just Mandarin... what about Hokkien, Hakka?

after having memorize all those characters/symbols/definitions... there's isn't much room for any else, is there?

now we begin to slowly but surely understand that REAL Chinese mind!

on the other hand, languages that are based on alphabets will continue to survive till the end of time because there are only a limited number of alphabets to learn... with millions of possibilities.

a strong culture, wouldn't you say?

a food for thought, could it be that the problems of the Chinese start with its language?

so, ngnglee, you speak Chinese, ah?

p/s that last question is an attempt at a subtle joke on irony, Manglish-style.



theBOLDanon

Anonymous said...

My, oh my, young the BOLDanon,

Still the same old " Caring Understanding Nineties Type" of guy. Never change do you?

If my 'wax on, wax off' style does not appeal to you, please lah go to Dato Sak's site to learn more about the beauty of the sport'Muay Thai'as so splendidly explained on Dato Sakmongkol's post 'The Rise of the Ringgit Democracy'. This is why he commands so much respect.

The great man himself had eaten more salt than you have with rice in your lifetime.

God bless you.
Unker Yew.

Anonymous said...

ngnglee said...I think I should stop the 'fear' talk already, looks like you all are quite sensitive about it?....

Who is sensitive about it?

You need to learn more about the centuries of history of ‘FEAR’ in your deeper selves before trying to inject it on to others. Look again in the mirror and if you have the time click onto these links.

http://www.jref.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-28270.html
http://angrychineseblogger.blog-city.com/5000_years_of_misrepresented_history_east_asia_tells_china_to_put_its_house_in_order.htm
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2224099779&topic=3694

I am the only Malay along this block. I guarantee your kind behave the same here in MALAYSIA. Do I need to elaborate on this ngnglee?

ngnglee said... And language is just a communication medium?

ALIENS FROM PLANET X said…. Nanuk Nanuk Nanuk @#$%^&*()+!?><”:+”::/Nanuk Nanuk Beep Boob Chirp Cherup Cheapskate $$$$$!!

I LOVE MALAYSIA

Anonymous said...

Hi there, I am Anonymous of November 25, 2008 3:31 AM.

Tam Dalyell, I appreciate your taking the time to respond to my comment. You've proven evidently that you can use the keyboard very well. It's also amazing how you managed to turn my nonpartisan rant into something completely anti-non-Malay. Big rats the likes of me? That's awesome. I made it a point not to use any racial references in my comment and yet you seem pretty sure that I'm a non-Malay just because I didn't say anything in support of your cause or something along the lines of, "Kudos Kijangmas for a brilliant blog post!" That's the thing about you and your far-right compatriots here. You choose only to believe what you want to believe and see what you want to see. "Have a differing viewpoint? You're anti-Malay! I keel you!"

Stop seething with so much anger man. Your threats of aggression and harm are only making things worse. If you can't accept liberal nationalism in place of ethnic nationalism, the least you could do is stop being so confrontational. Don't keep training your sights at your favourite punching bags like Teresa Kok, Lim Kit Siang, Karpal Singh and Anwar Ibrahim (he's Malay, but because he's espousing 'ketuanan rakyat' he's a betrayer of the Malay race right?) and lose sight of the fact that that there are non-Malays out there who're bored with all the political racial posturing as much as you are and are willing to sit down and talk.

I mean, after all, did we not all descend from Adam and Eve, as per the Qur'an, Torah and Bible? Wouldn't that make us all the same?

But I'm sure that's too rosy/romantic/idealistic/hippie-ish/liberal/moderate for the likes of you race supremacists.

Anonymous said...

so, ngnglee, aren't you just glad that you came to demiNegara's blog?

well, at the very least, you are now communicating at an acceptable level.

however, we know better than to expect any semblance of gratitude because such a noble trait is, by nature, not in you.

anyway, before ngnglee starts to contradict ngnglee (NO, this is not a typo.), let's review what ngnglee said...

1... But an apple is still an apple...
2... Oh, and red apple is different from green apple, unless you are colorblind.

see... in ngnglee's previous post it was just apple!... and, if you're not colorblind, why did you see all apples as just apple?

3... I will always write an apple as, an apple...

excellent... you will, won't you?... although, the truth of the matter is, you didn't, did you?

and, why?

2...My English is not good, so I can save my time for all the fancy sentences.


whaddayaknow... not much room for argument here... but, does anybody understand what ngnglee is attempting to convey in the second part of that sentence?

incidentally, did you see any fancy sentences from ngnglee's previous posts?

hey, after taking into consideration the substantial time saved... one would have expected another Shakespeare in the making!

... must have scrolled down too fast and missed that part, I guess.

anyway, ngnglee went on to write, "...Am I too straightforward? You bet, sometimes the truth is quite hurtful..."

I don't think it'd be wise to bet on this, for the very simple reason that you will lose!

why?

elementary, my dear Whatsyournameagain?...

in the reply to Tam Dalyell, ngnglee wrote:

1... "Before I explain my understanding on the bangsa Malaysia, I have a question, why do we need to have bangsa Malaysia?"

2... "Can the assimilation cure the racial polarization? But before that, mind to let me know what do you think is the cause for the racial-polarisation?"

so, ngnglee take a couple of hours to muse over you own time-saving sentences, especially the bold-italicized parts and reconsider your willingness to bet on your straightforwardness?

just a thought, do you actually understand what being straightforward is all about?

could it be that ngnglee got that word confused with the word evasive?

mind you, this wouldn't be the first nor the last time that ngnglee got confused and mixed everything up!

because that's exactly what ngnglee is really all about... EVASIVE, am I not correct?

the proofs are there in black & white... can't deny that, can you?

and, bad bet ngnglee, also wrote, "...I think I should stop the 'fear' talk already, looks like you all are quite sensitive about it?..."

hey, why stop when you've never begun?

so, stop being evasive, state your case(s)... assuming you have any, to begin with!

aiyah, why so slimy one hor!

p/s anon I LOVE MALAYSIA... good one with the "ALIENS FROM PLANET X said…"

theBOLDanon

Anonymous said...

Ngnglee November 26, 2008 12:43 PM ref apple to apple

Wahhh. So good to be back after a couple of days away. Hey ngnglee, you are here too. Happy to see you man. What say you, we pick up from we left? Bashing each other silly? We fight like sworn enemies and talk like long lost friends. And the crowd gets bigger too. The teh-tarik mamak stall sure grins ear to ear 24/7. What?? No welcome hug for me eh? Well, I guess the wicked deserves none.

Salaam KijangMas.

Now back to apple.
We are aware of what you refer ‘apple’ to... Here in Malaysia your ‘apple’ is the apple of the minority. So when you flaunt your ‘apple’ everywhere arrogantly, the dominant majority is not very unhappy with you. You have been taking the ‘so what’ stance towards the apparent unhappiness of your ‘roommates’. This arrogance has to stop ngnglee. These ‘roommates’ may have to deprive you of your ‘apple’. If forced to, they will even eject you out of the ‘house’ altogether.


“why do we need to have bangsa Malaysia?” you asked (again arrogantly)

We don’t need bangsa Malaysia ngnglee. We never did. You do. We did it because our Duli Raja-Raja wished so 500 years ago. And Their Majesties left us a 7 Point Wasiat, the unlettered fine print meaning of which need not be read here. We need Bangsa Melayu for Tanah Melayu. It is to accommodate you and your friends, that we have to perform a surgery to our Bangsa Melayu to look Bangsa Malaysia. I think there's something about this ‘accommodating thing’ somewhere a little above where we are now. (November 26, 2008 3:11 AM ). If you think bangsa Malaysia is a bother to you, good for you. It’s now our turn to loose nothing but gain everything.


“But before that, mind to let me know what do you think is the cause for the racial-polarisation?” (just like you)

You are asking this only to provoke la ngnglee. You know the answer, yes, The answer is you, lu, awak. I tabik you also lah ngnglee. You are really one strutting cock of a desert ostrich. One who makes this corner of the sphere an exiting sparring-ring and you make a very tahan sparring partner, though I know that you are intimidated by everyone here, espically KijangMas, except me.

Back to causes . .
If your forefathers had not desert China, if the British had not used them to alienate us in our motherland 500 years ago, you would not be here, and there would be only me, no one but the Melayu. Racial-polarization starts when the Melayu tolerates and accommodates the non-Melayu. Our tatatertib and sopan santun was deliberately misread by ‘friends in need (who) are friends indeed’. Are you our real friend ngnglee? When you isolate yourself from the Malay majority, when you diversify this isolation, standing with everyone but far apart from everyone, that you insist to be ‘special-different’ from the whole, that everyone else is inferior, that your attitude makes you a ‘patriot’ simply by recalibrating the Negara Ku the National Anthem, and such likes . . . we know then the total sum of your provocative actions and reactions, such as this little write of yours, is to isolate the Malays, once isolated targeting them is much easier, just like how the Zionist isolates the Muslim World by defining the Muslims as terrorists.

That’s how you started racial-polarization, and this is your next step, by making out as if the Malay is the cause, thus further isolating the Malays. The reality is that you are the thief who cries wolf then points in another direction. This reaction towards you is the effect of and not the cause.


You see ngnglee, this blog has stated its certain stand in a very friendly fashion:-

http://deminegara.blogspot.com/2008/10/unraveling-rpk-mystique.html - October 4, 2008 3:43 AM
“. . .kalau kita mahukan persamaan hak dan peluang dengan kaum majoriti, kita harus dulu menampilkan sikap dan budaya yg boleh di terima dan di senangi oleh kaum majoriti tersebut. Ini sudah lumrah hidup, di mana-mana pun begitu, termasuk di negara China dan India sekali pun. Dan ini juga ciri sistem berdemokrasi, dimana kumpulan teramai akan menerajui dan mengemudi sesebuah negara.”


Here,s another, less friendly:-

http://test.chedet.com/che_det/2008/11/siew-sin-on-sino-malay-relatio.html

"It will be seen that this simple phrase could mean nothing. It could also mean everything. It was vague, it was also comprehensive and it was comprehensive enough as to be capable of being interpreted in a way which could mean the virtual elimination of . . .”

Let’s take five and adjourn to the teh-tarik stall.

Anonymous said...

ngnglee said:
"In my opinion, a patriotic will place country’s benefit ahead of him/her-self and his/her community. "

all i can say, nowdays non-malay espcially the sepet one are more patriotic when dealing with money more than ever.

sampai sekarang bercakap bm macam baru turun tongkang, patriotic my a**.

apa yang Tam Dalyel tulis ialah luahan kecewa pada masyarakat bekas'pendatang' yg macam jenis dah bagi betis nak peha lepas tu nak kepala p***r.

and seeing big billboards filled with 'chong cheng chong cheng' words in the middle of town, wtf i'm in malaysia or what?

i can see those bunch of sepet still dare to talk about patriotism.My a** again..oooohh..my bad..

if this keep going on, sorry lads, u're waking up a lot of 'inner' ultra spirit among the natives(which is mostly malay, for bunch of you thinking malay are also pendatang,middle finger for you, when the natives established this country then you came eat,breed,make shit here and you calling tuan rumah also pendatang, mari aku bagi pelempang sulung, tara belaja punya orang)

Anonymous said...

(Anonymous of November 25, 2008 3:31 AM.) at November 27, 2008 3:47 AM

Next time never to suddenly jump out of the dark brandishing a US bazooka in one hand, an earthquake in another and an assortment of biological weapons on your back while screaming ‘banzaaaaaai’.

The ‘anon’ mask you put on causes me to ‘un-read’ you that causes my ‘anti-virus’ software to list you as ‘an unfriendly coward’. So naturally the software automatically initiates the ‘quarantine and neutralize’ mode.

In a way you asked for it. Do you expect me to kiss a stranger who pops a primed grenade in my handbag? A chili spray is only for rapist.

But as Anak Adam to Anak Adam brothers, am relieved that you come out unharmed, kicking and fighting.

Anon ... one can guess based only on in-house info one has. No . . that was not anger. Anger explodes and last the duration of an explosion. Anger cannot sustain itself for 50 years.

It was a kind of a fiercely primordial survival instinct of the wild, the kind that wolves pack and polar bears are born with.

Happy to have you together with us as guests here. Looking forward to our future, if any.

Anonymous said...

Anonoymous,

Can you please explain Liberal Nationalism?

Please give an example of Liberal Nationalism where all components are speaking different languages?

Do you do know how racist Anwar was in the late 70s and 80s? But good for you since you are championing an "Espouser of Ketuanan Rakyat" because he is now singing totally different tune to an oblivious crowd.

I am a malay educated from the national system and it sickens me to the stomach to see this hippocrit who was one the Education Minister coming personally to my school giving fiery formal and informal speeches on malay supremacy to go and turn around (no pun intended) and now question the same idealolgy that he was foaming in the mouth propagating to us as student then, in order to purely satisfy his personal agenda.

You should really watch you back with him....

No I am not a UMNO fan nor am I a supporter of any party.

I am a supporter of pure common sense and common sense will dictate that for any country to unite-languange is the unificating factor.

For some reason the notion of the protesters at suvarnabhumi airport shouting in languages of thai,chinese, indian, english, laotian etc wouldn't have the same impact would it?

As for KijangMas - all I have to say is that you are Da Man!

I use to have kelantanophobia but after marrying my KLite kelantanese missus and coming up to KB I have to admit that you guys are really the real mccoy on the model of nationalism.

Like you say bro, orghe melayu, cino, siam, india ke..kalau orang kelantan tu sama saja as they ALL speak kelantanese.

Let me give you an example:

When I married my kelantanese wife, I was shocked when my mother-in-law rejected the celebrity Malay Wedding planner- Pak Abu and insisted on using a CHINESE WEDDING PLANNER purely because he was KELANTANESE -David Khor.

To quote her- "dio orghe kito jadi kito kono sokong..."

David Khor is a 60 year old kelantanese chinese who was the first batch steward for Malaysian Airlines in the early 70s.

He has flown around the world for more than 35 years and STILL speaks perfect kelantanese and kelantanese ONLY with my wife's family and they treat each other like FAMILY.

But he is still a free practising non-muslim and has no inferiority issues like you lot out there.

The Malay kelantanese will even choose a non-malay kelantanese over a non-kelantanese malay.

Would you do the same?

So people should just go up to KB and learn the true meaning of nationalism.

These starbucks sipping, CSI watching armchair critics can learn a thing or two.

p.s. Kijangmas

We are looking to relook up her family tree who were the only father and son to administer Kelantan.

Details leading up to the early 1900s are sketchy so I am sure your knowledge on kelantan history would be helpful.

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

we are a complete society, not made up of tribes and estranged riff raffs. I totally agree with you, esp about astro's recent and daring attempt. opinion shapers, media and recent "historians" are trying to mold the minds and psyche, values and perception. being racial minded is alright (but does no mean one is racist in an extreme way) and that is the truth - why try or pretend to be otherwise? our lawmakers, politicians and narrow minded officials are struggling indeed in making this great nation a socially conducive melting "claypot".

Anonymous said...

we are a complete society, not made up of tribes and estranged riff raffs. I totally agree with you, esp about astro's recent and daring attempt. opinion shapers, media and recent "historians" are trying to mold the minds and psyche, values and perception. being racial minded is alright (but does no mean one is racist in an extreme way) and that is the truth - why try or pretend to be otherwise? our lawmakers, politicians and narrow minded officials are struggling indeed in making this great and self determined nation a socially conducive melting "claypot" anchored by the definitive majority.

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous, this is your second replies for me that touching about the 'fear'.

I wonder...

Anyway, I can't understand why you show me something related to the Nanjing Massacre and the hate of mainland Chinese to the Japanese (is this a fear?) because I am a Malaysian, this issue has got nothing to do with me.

History is a lesson, we can learn something from it; but don't let the history control you and your current life, can you get what I mean?

Yes, language is only a communication medium.

Don't worry my friend, I do not intend to build a bangsa Aliens with the Aliens from the Planet X.

So I don’t really need to know what they say.

However, I am grateful you are able to hear me and understand me, even though we are not communicate in Bahasa Malaysia...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous (Signed Haanim) November 26, 2008 3:19 AM said...

“Makes me want to run out and re-learn Bahasa. So we just all learn this and get rid of BN lah kan?“

First, don't get me wrong Haanim. I am never a patron of these road side teh-tarik stalls named BN or PR. Their dishes are all half cooked. And what I am going to say is not of any leaning to any ethnicity.


A) Consider well, so that we leave our country with an open option.

1) People tell us that BN’s strength is crumbling. People also have not tell us where is PR’s strength.

2) People tell us that BN is a dying relic. People also haven’t shown us what sustains PR’s existence.

3) People tells us not to vote for MIC. People also forget to tell us what ‘mic’ will fight for us in the PR.

4) Something may cause all Chinese to vote for PKR. It also can cause all Bumis to vote for UMNO.

5) We neglect ourselves not to look into the ‘PAS factor.’

6) For all we know, PAS can be the ‘kingmaker’.

7) Whoever’s table PAS decides to join for breakfast, that table will ascend to the throne.


B) We are looking for something that will cater for its kind whilst not neglecting all the other kinds, something that will not only be saksama, sama-rata-sama-rasa, but more so that has the strength to be adil. We have to look for someone who caters his home well while not neglecting all his neighbors, even if he is not popular.

Yes strength and adil are mutually complementary.

What people say are at best 50% true and 50% false.

Seeing it with our own eyes and ilmu changes that.

Anonymous said...

Dear Tam Dalyell, I'm glad to hear from you again. To be honest I'm surprise to see you described me as arrogant. I did spend some time to look back my previous comments and yes I'm a little bit aggressive.

My apology.

However I do not intend to provoke you by any means, this one I can assure you.

I mean to ask you question in order to know you better. Maybe you should ask back to yourself why would you think I was to provoke you? Is it because I have touched on something that you've regarded as sensitive?

I'm glad you did reply my question, although it is a disappointed one.

For you non-Malays are the only reason that causing all the troubles. You blame non-Malays' ancestors of stepping on this land, you blame British of bringing in my ancestors, you blame non-Malays of provoking you, you blame non-Malays of constantly challenging your limit.

And you believe non-Malays are the one who have caused the racial-polarisation.

But no, racial polarization is not caused by non-Malays alone. In my understanding, it is caused by the 'divide and rule' administration style of the ruling class.

First it was British and now BN.

Rakyat are divided along their communal identity, they think only about their own community and care only about its interest. As the result different community have their own idea of nation building and understanding of issues affecting the people and the country.

But the real problem is, this difference of idea and understanding is contradicted to each other.

For example, the issue of bangsa Malaysia, social contract, Article 153 of the Federal Constitution, NEP, the meaning of equality and the very basic question of whether Malaysia a secular state or Islamic state are still controversial issues between Malays and non-Malays.

I think maybe Malaysia is the only country in the world that the citizens are having so many disagreements between them regarding the important national issues.

'Divide and rule' set out the backbone of our society but the Rakyat are further divided by various racial issues that causing them to become emotional and lost their rational and moderate mind. Most of the time this racial sentiment is flamed by the irresponsible politicians but sometimes also by the Rakyat themselves--the Rakyat who can't understand the importance of racial unity, who are only focus on their own community and are too insensitive to the feeling of people of other communal backgrounds.

I will rather say, the Rakyat--Malays and non-Malays are the unaware 'pushers' of the racial polarization under the unhealthy 'divide and rule' societal setup.

But we are all the victims, all of us—Malays and non-Malays.

Our beloved country needs united citizens, not the divided one to push on the real nation building and moving forward into a more healthy direction. This is why we need to have bangsa Malaysia.

This is also why Raja Muda Nazrin Shah said we need to forge a community of people with shared values and interests.

We need to also break the communal boundaries and think in a way that all the national issues are affecting everybody, not just our own community and accept the fact that Malaysia consists of people from different communal background, and each one of them deserves attention and respect.

In order to achieve this unity, we can focus less on our community and concentrate more in the national issues. Don't forget all of us will be the beneficiary if our country is healthy and prosperous.

This is my version of bangsa Malaysia. It is more on achieving mutual understanding and respect and fostering a true working relationship between the Rakyat of different communal background.

It is not about assimilation because it will not necessarily uniting the Rakyat, look at the fact that the Malay community is on itself separated between UMNO, PKR and PAS will give you some clues.

So you see me as a sparring partner? How unlucky am I because I wish to treat you as friend. However I know that as a non-Malay it is not easy to becomes your true friend because you have many restriction: I can't provoke you, I can't challenge you, I must accept you as the Tuan and is higher than me and I must also follow your version of bangsa Malaysia and abandon my mother culture and language.

What is the point for me to go to the teh tarik stall then?

Human being thinks in a habitual manner, which is closely affected by our family, friends, community and environment. Therefore it is understandable the reason why people have too many different opinions on the same thing.

For a cup half-filled with water, optimistic people will be happy with it but the pessimistive one will complaint on the half-full water.

You said "Here in Malaysia your 'apple' is the apple of the minority."

You have your own unique way of analyzing and come out with that conclusion, but how do you sure my 'apple' is the minority, could it be the majority? And now why don’t you try something new and see what you get if you think in a reverse direction?

What will you get if the 'apple' is the majority?

Dear theBOLDanon, didn't I tell you I am very straightforward? My message is very clear—red apple is different from green apple but both are still apples.

So what are you still confusing?

Anonymous said...

ngnglee November 30, 2008 12:13 PM

You are hurt inside. May be because too many blind arrows find their marks. You sound merajuk. I was hurt once. But because of different reasons. You also try to emulate chedet's style of writing. Good try.

You are soft now. Not much to learn from a tired and softened sparring partner. Sparring partners are sportsmen of the same team. They function to enhance each others' sharpness. Your wordings and flow of thoughts now resembles those whom you accused to divide and rule. Very different from your first line of your first comment, when you said, “Dear Demi Negara, since you do not intend to publish my comment, I will write down all my opinion here. Initially I refrain to do so because it might be quite sensitive and offensive to Malay community. So keep this comment to yourself.” You were full of fire then albeit a bit 'memancing'. Makes us anticipate something hot. Both your defense and offense mechanism were on red alert then.

Now you sound like those many people up there who utter pious lines to gain support up the hierarchy not to serve the rakyat but to gain access to coffers and hidden treasures.

“What is the point for me to go to the teh tarik stall then?” said you.
Yeah. What’s the point.

Good bye.

Unknown said...

KijangMas Dear

"we must now contemplate how we should treat these wild boars and other makhluk perosaks running loose and unchecked in our ancestral domain" - part 2

perhaps the exam assessment should be revised to steer away from rote learning

it should NOT be in a Hall-based written format as this only test MEMORY rather than intellect

this method favours the hard working students who mug and memorise data to regurgitate on exam day

projects which test application of knowledge rather rote learning should be emphasised

argumentative kind of writing would filter the clever from the tutored bookworm

as for the economic wealth imbalance - cottage industry

perhaps the kampung folks should be given more assistance in terms of production methods, packaging, marketing and simple accounting

transportation of products could also be enhanced

this may lead to self-sustenance and hopefully to an increase in wealth among the rural folks

and we should ALL speak and write in Bahasa Melayu soon - me included

Anonymous said...

Can I ask everyone who has been following the debate on the Bangsa Malaysia issue in this blog this sounded trivial-cum-pessimistic question "where are we heading?"

I think Kijang Mas has laid a very persuasive argument on what Bangsa Malaysia ought to be and I personally felt the adrenalin running inside me everytime reading his and many other comrades posting about Malay supremacy.

Can we now focus on some specific issues that are `doable'. I would like to bring back the issue of vernacular school. Reading news report about Murkriz statement on this issue makes me feel that the the time is ripe for us to act now. How do we exert our pressure to rid vernacular schools in this country and to whom does this pressure should be mounted against? What are the repercussions and are Malays ready to face the repercussion?

We have to accept the fact that we Malays are divided on many core issues - language, religion, customs, etc. Our world-views and beliefs are diversed. I have many friends around me who seems to `more chinese' than the chinese themselves. These Malays would ridicule everything that is `Malay and Islam'. They would be ashamed to be associated with Malay-Islam. In fact, I can go on and on describing this species and I'm very sure we've seen, met and work with them. In short, they irked me to the core. They, I would describe as Melayu murtad. This is the likes of Haris Ibrahim, Sisters-in-Islam, Azly Rahman, Mustafa K. Anuar, Amir Muhammad, Zaid Ibrahim and of course not to forget our beloved `royal prophet' King Petra Kamaruddin, who are spread out in many different professions, fighting against Malay dominance in many different fronts. They would be one of the biggest obstacle that would challenge the idea of Bangsa Malaysia berteraskan Melayu.

Anonymous said...

Kesian kat ngnglee.

ngnglee said.. Don't worry my friend, I do not intend to build a bangsa Aliens with the Aliens from the Planet X… So I don’t really need to know what they say…

It about sums up, thanks for enlightening and confirming your 'fear' and 'communication' concept.

Kalau tak belajar standard Malaysian Mandarin disekolah, mereka kurang fahaman sesama sendiri, dialect macam ragam. “Nanuk Nanuk Nanuk @#$%^&*()+!?><”:+”::/Nanuk Nanuk Beep Boob Chirp Cherup Blink Blink wa bei liauw meh , wa uump chi meh, Tehchew, Khek gua lagi tak tau lor ya na dey, I no no what you mean??.

Pi sekolah baru dapat seragamkan Wa pu chi tau meh?

Terpaksa seragamkan, ini arahan keras dari pihak Pemerintah Komunis sebagai Bahasa Kebangsaan Negeri Asal mereka.

Kesian Apek tersesat ni.

I also would like to bid you FAREWELL ngnglee.

I LOVE MALAYSIA.

Anonymous said...

Tam Dalyell, I'm sorry for not being able to be a good sparring partner of yours, but just like what I said earlier I don’t like to be the one too.

I'm soft but not lembab, I believe I'm still able to convey my message out clearly.

Remember how you accused me of provoking you when I was acting aggressively at the beginning?

My friend, what do you want actually? Hey, you make me very confuse lah...

You are right, I’m hurt but it is because I have seen people who are blind from the reality; or those who are able to see the reality but prefer to stay blind about it.

I do not try to emulate chedet's writing style because I don't know what his style is, so far I have only read two or three of his articles, I prefer Farish Noor, Azly Rahman and Bakri Musa to be honest.

Actually I like to hang around at mamak stores, especially during the weekend when there are live EPL football matches. We might meet again at the future in one of the stalls under the Malaysia sky, who knows?

I will say "halo" to you, hope you don’t shy away from me.

Nice to talk to you, take care my friend.

Anonymous said...

denone of December 1, 2008 7:32 AM

Yeah brother. I second your thought. Now that we are not alone . . . Mukhriz has made a move. He has reinforced a front KijangMas initiated. Hope it gathers momentum and volume. Enough to occupy them. But this could also close their ranks. Discuss this later... cross the bridge when we come to it.

We keep up the pressure here. Never let up.

In the mean time . . .

I am keen to address this ‘kingmaker issue’. Somebody mention it above. Let’s look at it as railway tracks. They never converge. Just let them run parallel. But always, in the same direction.

If we can get them to breakfast together at the same table. (Ref: November 28, 2008 3:39 PM ). Both should share the table. Why share with dap?

Somebody could play the messenger and mediator role. The Duli Raja-Raja could come into the picture later on. We have until 2013 to prepare the grounds.

Just a thought. Serious. The first step to salvage the Negara Tercinta.

Anonymous said...

Tam Dalyell said...(December 1, 2008 12:06 PM)...

"I am keen to address this ‘kingmaker issue’. Somebody mention it above. Let’s look at it as railway tracks. They never converge. Just let them run parallel. But always, in the same direction."

I like the railway tracks metaphor. Certainly, it's good idea to get UMNO and PAS to come to breakfast table. I have some `old' friends(during our university days) who are now elected PAS MPs and DUNs in Kelantan. I supposed I have to go back more often to Kelantan to have breakfast with them. I remember about two years back, I bumped into this `old friend' who was Tok Guru MB special officer as I was eating rojak at the stadium with my family, and `surprisingly' he paid for the rojak and we talk briefly. We used to `quarrel' over many issues during our university days since both of us represent two different political ideologies. But, I supposed we can now sit on the same breakfact table to discuss the future of our negara tercinta.

Also, I would like to bring back the idea of consolidating Penang state back to Kedah. May be some Kedahan (what about Mukhriz)would like to take up this issue with their Sultan and see where do we move from there. I'm quite legally illiterate (and many are, as Prof. Shad Faruqi would say) about the constitution law and states constitution. But I believe, if there is a political will, of course with UMNO and PAS together on this issue, we would be able to bring back Penang into Kedah.

I think, this is the only way we can eliminate chinese dominance (DAP) in Penang. We cannot hope for PKR to tilt the balance in favour of Malays in Penang or to regain Penang from DAP rule. As of now, the chinese in Penang are beli-beli hepi with Unker Lim Jr. at the helm. Why should they change the govt. If you follow the dicourse on Penang and DAP goverment, even the most ardent critic of `state and power' are now changing their cap to be the ardent protector of the state and power who would defend everthing DAP government did, although under the BN govt. they would criticize to the bone, simply to ensure that DAP will not fail. And creatively, they all sing this line "give DAP a chance". Look at the recent fiasco about the failed Tennis event and now the Penang Heritage status. Where are all the heritage, nature and environmental NGOs. Their silence is rather suspicious. Or are they actually DAP alliances or members of DAP camouflage as NGOs.

Malays, whether you orang UMNO, PAS, PKR, orang atas pagar, hok jenih tok tak kisah, oghe Koto Baghu, Ttupat, Pasir Mah. Nogoghi, Kedoh, Muor, Permatang Pauh, New York, London, Beijing, please wake up. It's our call. This is the only Tanah Tumpah darah we have...

Anonymous said...

A little historical fact about Pulau Pinang, in case we forget (took from one of the website on Penang)

"...The history of modern Penang can be traced back to 1786 when Francis Light persuaded the Sultan of Kedah to cede Pulau Pinang to the British East India Company. In exchange, the Sultan was promised British military protection from the Siamese. When the Siamese invaded, there was no help rendered to the Sultan who attempted to retake Penang back in 1790. The attack was unsuccessful and Penang continued to remain under British control with the additional strip of mainland added in 1800. The Sultan was paid 10,000Spanish Dollars per annum in return...."

May be it's about time for the Sultan of Kedah retake Pulau Pinang back into its cradle. The rightful sultan for penangites is the Sultan of Kedah. Ampun Tuanku.

About the vernacular school. Utusan Malaysia headlined Mukhriz statement and I'm very sure it's gonna be a hot debate/issue. I hope we Malays will joint in the chorus to support Mukhriz brave statement and keep the momentum and pressure on. The chauvanist chinese educationists have long taken us for a ride. It's it the time for us to make the call. Bravo Mukhriz! Hidup Alumni MRSM. We'll be with you on this.

Anonymous said...

Ref: Denone December 1, 2008 11:38 PM

Much appreciated brother Denone for your positive response. All thanks to KijangMas who raised ‘issue1 kingmakers’ while responding to M. Tigress November 11, 2008 2:53 AM, and ‘issue2 Penang’ while responding to your goodself November 19, 2008 2:17 AM.

Let’s invite more concerned parallel parties to get involved. Anyone from food caurt to royal caurt. I see you have a few in mind. Then maybe we can sit together over teh tarik or while enjoying Malaysian outdoor natural retreat. KijangMas may honour us with a few lines of motivation. That's ponggok rindukan bulan.

I belief realities originate from dreams.

Have to be careful though. Lest opportunists might use this for personal / political mileage. Then we’ll take it from there.

For Malaysia.

me said...

Full disclosure: I spent 6 years in a Chinese vernacular, and no I've had had no traumatising experiences there.

Brilliant piece. We've gotta be honest with ourselves, this is a conflict of cultures, where all differing communities are not willing to concede anything, yet accuse each other of impeding progress.

Vernacular schools should be abolished, or at least not given public funding. It's clear and simple.

HOWEVER, it cannot be accomplised by simply asserting it forcefully, without presenting your arguments with nuance. This is where Mukhriz went wrong. He did not elaborate, and allowed plenty of room for separate, and often disadvantageous (to him) interpretations of his proposal.

In any case, I don't think vernaculars will go too soon. Those in support of abolition are too wont to generalise supporters of the system as cultural chauvinists, and those opposed to abolishment are too wont to generalise supporters of abolition as cultural chauvinists.

Perhaps what I really want to say is, the world iis complex, and one should view it with as much nuance as possible.

NUANCE

Anonymous said...

Just want to add to what 'Omong' has said with regards to 'cottage industry'.

There is an international organisation which can help in the financing of this cottage industry. It is called the Grameen Bank (www.grameen-info.org/). This bank gives micro credits to poor people in Bangladesh, Indonesia, countries in North Africa etc. Maybe Malaysia can also benefit from this system.

The founder of Grameen Bank, Prof Yunus had been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2006.

Cheers.

zazaland

Anonymous said...

zazaland (December 2, 2008 11:09 AM) said:
The founder of Grameen Bank, Prof Yunus had been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2006.

I just want to add, Universiti Sains Malaysia had recently awarded Prof.Yunus Honorary Doctorate of Economics.

Briefly, to Tam Dalyell (and others) we have to start talking about actions and strategies rather than talk (via blogs).

Saya... said...

So?

When's the next piece?

What say you on the hysteria/uproar regarding Mukhriz's (lame parroting albeit as daddy's mouthpiece) of abolishing vernacular schools?

Hypocrisy of the "Bangsa Malaysia" proponents?

Yapping about "Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia" but still unable to let go of their own hang-ups/interests?

What DO they want in a Bangsa Malaysia anyways?

Anonymous said...

dear demi negara,
i wish you can be on tv to talk on this issue. and i wish the minister of education reads this article of yours so that no more Kelas Peralihan at the secondary schools.

Anonymous said...

The Star paper today (3rd Dec 2008) quotes DPM Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak saying " Vernacular schools will continue to exist as long as the Chinese & Indians communities need such a system."

I'm wondering after reading that, exactly when will the Chinese & Indian communities going to stop needing this system?

"DAP veteran leader Lim Kit Siang said Mukhriz had committed a seditious offence by questioning one of the four sensitive issues entrenched in the Constitution and he could be disqualified as an MP if convicted."

I almost puke blood after reading that especially coming from Unker Kit.

Does this mean the social contracts & the Malay rights are not sensitive issues that are being raised & questioned by the same hypocrites?

"PAS deputy president Nasaruddin Mat Isa said it was the right of each race to be educated in their mother tongue."

I'm wondering again in which direction is he going with that kind of statement? Certainly not the direction of One Bangsa, One Bahasa.

Kijangmas, I am just glad I am faithful to your blog or else I'll go insane reading this kind of comments by our politicians in the papers.


MY0060

BaitiBadarudin said...

Saya setuju benar dengan cadangan Denone!

Anonymous said...

Kijangmas,

I am the only Malay along this block of shops for the last 12years. I have an old Chinese Amah who helps clean my premise. I mix very with all races,

I would like to point out few of my observations where the use of Bahasa Malaysia is concerned:

1. Statistics show in Malaysia there are Hokkien 1,848,211 , Hakka 1,679,027, Cantonese 1,355,541 , Teochew 974,573 ,Mandarin 958,467 , Hainanese 380,781 ,Min Bei 373,337 ,Min Dong 249,413, Straits Chinese 236,91. Some seem like an entirely different language. So Mandarin is their standard means of communication with each other.

How about Indians and other ethnic groups in MALAYSIA??

2. My neighbours are mostly Cantonese/Hokkiens. SUCCESSFUL family businessmen but they openly confided in me, written BM/BI is nanuk nanuk to them!

They would seek my assistance for emergencies where BM/BI letters, documentations or related matters that may need immediate attentions such as:
a. Help translate, draft even print, reply letters to Govt and local authorities,Banks even EPF n IRD. Even help with demand letters for their outstanding debtors.

Headache! trying just to understand their points before coming out with these letters!.(they hardly knew what I printed, would just sign anyway and off they go, CONTENTED!).

b. Some had me accompany them to EPF for withdrawals! Or to help confirm on irregular entries etc. (Dont even bring their children?)

I got some running to my shop, urgent, to help confirm on certain clauses before signing eg. Tenancy Agreements. (Chinese Lawyers abundant, yet why?)

c. Simple things, how to go about getting ASW, open CDS accounts (PostOffice or Agent Banks merely a 3minutes drive, and brokers having Chinese remisiers around?)Told me, ”malu lor, tak tau apa macam mau tanya!”

d. Old, tired and confused Indian strangers will pop in, requesting similar assistance. They could simply get assistance from the relevant counters, yet reluctant to even try there first!!. W H Y ???

3. I can go on. I assisted, NO CHARGES, knowing these people needed help. For SUCH SIMPLE MATTERS…. I sense their “fear of the unknown” whenever it involves BM and BI.

4. 51years yet totally blur and not able to get the right information in Malaysia? They subscribe to all the Chinese dailies, 10 TO 10 blaring HongKong/ Taiwanese TV channels!!
And the saddest part, they have SMK going kids (SKJK primary goers), even CHINA and TAIWAN graduates?

5. The Star reported… MCA Legal Bureau chairman Datuk Leong Tang Chong demanded that the Jerlun MP make a public apology to all Malaysians and refrain from making such political rhetoric…

….I HOPE, sincerely from the bottom of my heart, Datuk Leong knows WHAT IS HAPPENING and the PROBLEMS faced at grassroot levels!

I LOVE MALAYSIA

Unknown said...

To: I LOVE MALAYSIA

December 3, 2008 10:07 PM

If they are convinced of the NEED to be well-versed in Bahasa Malaysia, they will put in the political effort.

Remember the Babas and the Nyonyas?

They even wear the kebaya and create Nyonya Kueh which is basically Kueh Melayu.

All the more urgency for Bangsa Malaysia to exist in the immediate future ...

Whatever it takes to enlarge and broaden the common space to be shared by the rakyat

Anonymous said...

Omong (and others),

I think we all know why the chinese refuse to learn and use Bahasa Melayu. It's sheer arrogance. Anything that symbolise Malay will be rejected. What more language - bahasa jiwa bangsa. Of course they wouldn't want jiwa Melayu.

Baiti - which part of my statement did you agree? So, it's really YOU, and when are you leaving? I can see you smiling, why? We might bump into each other in some international conferences some day. All the best.

BaitiBadarudin said...

denone said...
Baiti - which part of my statement did you agree? So, it's really YOU, and when are you leaving? I can see you smiling, why? We might bump into each other in some international conferences some day. All the best.
The part on "start talking about actions and strategies rather than talk (via blogs)", bro or sis?
Of cos I'm smiling (sheepishly) cos I've exposed my identity but I haven't figured who you are. I may leave in mid January and hope to bump into you soon. TQ

Anonymous said...

i got to admit that i've not always been an avid BM user but it seems to be getting easier to learn the language now as there are more words that i somehow understand. here are a few examples:

insurans, televisyen, multimedia, tayar, teknologi, komputer, telefon, aksesori, komoditi, dominasi, elektronik, variasi, stesen, dividen, galeri, kualiti, kredit, amaun, sekuriti, ekuiti, tol.

more recently, there's : akreditasi, bajet, senario, kreatif, protokol, direktori, utiliti, persepsi, ekslusif, telekomikasi, fleksibel, dinamik, infrastruktur, profil, korporat.

even tmnet's poster's displayed the word "wayarles". In time everyone will be speaking BM without realising it.

Banshee Creative said...

We need to be less afraid. It's always "OH don't question us! we can't talk about other things, it's too sensitive". I think the more we reach out, the more we understand each other, the more likely the bangsa Malaysia can happen.

Can't celebrate chinese new year together, can't celebrate deepavali together, can't celebrate Christmas, can't celebrate hari rayas. We don't even consider Hari Gawai etc.

we should feel free to eat, sleep, play, learn together, barulah boleh. no superiority talk, no us. vs. them. No Biro Tatanegara spiel, no watching for "enemies" where there are none.

No MPs that talk rubbish and rudely (on either side of the "divide"), I'd want an MP who will vote or debate for a bill etc that works best for their constitutients (ok I can't spell it) and not just cos it's what the party wants. I'd love to see committees with both groups working together for a common purpose. for the RAKYAT for real.

Language may be one way but we don't even live near each other, our kids don't play together, we don't even go over to people's houses anymore. Howlah like that..

None of this "if you build something, mine must be bigger."

The Bukit Antarabangsa tragedy has shown us the worst of our mistakes, the level our govt/civilservice has come down to.

but it has to start with the education system, with us teaching our children differently.

It has to start somewhere.

fadz said...

Slm, saya nak "pinjam" entri ni ke blog saya... satu makluman ttg kepentingan BM yg sangat teliti dan baik!

Tulis Suka Suka said...

surely interesting!!
definitely!!!
i'll link ur blog!!
nice words...really!!

Yusuf Nur said...

Mohon izin menggunakan gambar ogre di blog saya..

http://yusufnur.blogspot.com/

KijangMas said...

A'kum Saudara Yusuf Nur.

Silakan, asalkan tercatat source dan pautan nya.

Anonymous said...

I don't think this article is entirely fair. Even the students of vernacular school learn Bahasa Malaysia. However, you can't expect non-Malay to speak perfect Malay. In my view, the non-Malays are practical people. In the current globalised world, it would be useful to learn English - nothing wrong with that. I guess the reason the writer used English and not Malay is to reach out to a wider audience.

If the writer is sincere about uniting the different races, then we should talk EQUALITY. Every Malaysian should be treated equally. There should not be the divisive labelling of bumiputera vs non-bumi. In fact, all of us should be labelled as Malaysian. Race/ethnicity should not be highlighted. Promotion, university places, government posts, scholarships, housing discounts, govenrment contracts etc should not be unfairly given based on race. Inequality, and not language, is the single most divisive issue in this nation.

Would the politician (and the writer) be willing to give non-bumi equal rights? There was no mention about this crucial issue in the article at all.

KijangMas said...

Anonymous (why so difficult to leave a nick?) said:-
“Even the students of vernacular school learn Bahasa Malaysia. However, you can't expect non-Malay to speak perfect Malay.”

Of course they have to learn Bahasa Malaysia the same way that Asians in America, Britain and Australia learn English. Why must you insinuate ("...Even the students of vernacular school ...") some kind of “extra effort” in what should be part and parcel of your people’s existence here in Malaysia? And why should we not “expect non-Malay to speak perfect Malay” in this country? Why must your tribe settle for less? Isn’t this grossly uncharacteristic of your highly competitive social group? You bask in superlatives in your undertakings -- legal or otherwise -- but throw in the towel and meekly surrender when it comes to proficiency in the National Language of your country of citizenship? Why this dichotomy? You seem to fall into the confused social crevasse of denial and self-exclusion, where you fight tooth and nail to deny to yourselves the unequivocal reality that Bahasa Malaysia is the sole official language of this land and you, by hook or by crook, will need to master it to a level sufficient for the majority not to mistook you for a pendatang.

After 51 years of Merdeka, we still have people like you who refused to accept Bahasa Malaysia as the National Language, the primary language for ALL Malaysians, the types who still view the National Language as some irrelevant “Malay” tongue not worthy of serious mastery by your minority group. Hence, the outrageous statement: “you can't expect non-Malay to speak perfect Malay.” Come on fella, you and your kids were born HERE, in Bumi Malaysia where “Malay” is the official language, indeed, the very language that acknowledges you as a Warganegara in your MyCard. How can you, without any shadow of guilt or embarrassment, proclaim your people’s deficiency in the official language and lingua franca (beyond your urban ghettoes and enclaves) of this land as a matter of fact and something to be expected? Would a 2nd generation ethnic-Chinese in Australia utter “you can't expect non-Whites to speak perfect English” to an Aussie audience? Kylie Kwong’s mother looks and speaks English like a typical HongKie Ah Soh. But does Kylie follow suit? No. Her Aussie Slang in her cooking show is soooo much more pronounced than even the White Aussies, just to show that she “belongs.” But in Malaysia? Forget the 2nd generation. Even the 4th and 5th generation non-Malays are still largely handicapped in Bahasa Malaysia. And many 10 year olds could hardly utter a single word and cuts a forlorn figure in the playgrounds. Why? You people tell me.

Anonymous said:-
“In my view, the non-Malays are practical people. In the current globalised world, it would be useful to learn English - nothing wrong with that.”

See the self-imposed kink in your logic whenever the issue of language emerges? Where is it written here or anywhere else that your learning and mastering the national language of your country of citizenship necessarily forfeit your learning of English ... or for that matter, any other language? Why do you feel that proponents of a more assertive stance on Bahasa Malaysia simultaneously see there’s something wrong in the learning of English as complementary to the national language?

Why this self-restricting “either or” attitude? Why your mind work this way? Do you go to Lee Ho Fook Restaurant and regard your culinary choices as either three helpings of braised pig’s snout or three helpings of pickled pig’s feet and nothing else? Why not one helping of each with some Char Siew thrown in? Are you implying that by properly learning Bahasa Malaysia, your challenged intellect cannot then absorb English? Wow. So you admitting to some mental limitation? That I cannot help. I suggest you go easy on bizarre Kung Fu movies (o.k., Kung Fu Hustle is the exception), lay off the mind-numbing Canto Pop and drink eight glasses of plain water a day. Take an aspirin if necessary; perhaps a Valium or two. Then you may be able to be like many of us, be able to master both Bahasa Malaysia and English.

Anonymous said:-
“I guess the reason the writer used English and not Malay is to reach out to a wider audience.”

Ho hum ... heard this oft-repeated reactionary one-liner time and again here and elsewhere. Let me ask you, Mr. Anonymous: Would you even turn up here and regurgitate this tired Unker Kit party line if this post was written wholly in the National Language, the “Malay” that you seem to loath and belittle? Yup, I don’t think so. Look, I don’t go the easy way and preach to the converted. I don’t need to lecture Gapena and Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka on the supremacy of Bahasa Malaysia on this land. I preach to the unreached, unsaved peoples of this country. Like you. Yup, this post was meant to reach the “unreached peoples” like yourself. The kind that languish in a grey fuzzy existence in Bumi Malaysia devoid of any sense of belonging in this land and at the same time do not quite fit anywhere else, be it in some obscure ancestral homeland or some promised land in the West, all of which would view and make you more foreign than you ever felt in this “unfair” land called Malaysia.

Anonymous said:-
“If the writer is sincere about uniting the different races, then we should talk EQUALITY. Every Malaysian should be treated equally. There should not be the divisive labelling of bumiputera vs non-bumi."

Agree, agree, and agree.

BUT ... for every Malaysian to “be treated equally,” every Malaysian, without exception, must exhibit sufficient homogeneity in language and socio-cultural essence underpinned by a sense of shared destiny. If today, you Mr. Anonymous, are able (which we doubt) to proudly speak and write Bahasa Malaysia fluently; apologise for your treasonous “you can't expect non-Malay to speak perfect Malay” statement; and shed all the alien, foreign mannerisms and vices from your existence; and exhibit sufficient awareness, affinity and respect for the culture and social norms of the Malay/Bumiputra majority, then we will welcome you with open arms.

Once you reached that point, there really is no need to label you a non-Bumi as you are already a “Bumi” by acculturation. Go check your non-Pribumi Indo and Thai brethrens and see how they worked hard to fit in and be accepted and regarded as “one of us” by the natives. You can continue to worship your own deities and goddesses. No big deal. Non-Muslim Bumis already predominate many parts of this land. You just join that pile.

How do you think the Indian Muslims slowly creep on the socio-political ladder and morphed into “Malays” within 1-2 generations? By insisting they are Tamils and Malayalees and Telugus? In this sense, I must say the mamaks are more “practical” than your people and are already waaay ahead of the political game in this country compared to your pathetic Dong Jiao Zong brand of divisive communal politics. See, the Malays are a very obliging and inclusive lot. We accept all comers of all colours, origins, shapes and sizes – as long as they are sincere about embracing our (meaning Malay and other native) language and at least partake in some of our social-cultural mores.

BUT if you come to my face with an unadulterated, loud-mouth alien HongKie persona immersed in self-centered rudeness and insist on speaking aloud in some alien foreign tongue in my presence, then there exist no iota of logic or reason for me to ever accept you as someone who should be “treated equally’ BECAUSE you have made it a point to not be my equal by your manifestation of a non-Malay, non-Bumi and by extension, non-Malaysian socio-cultural façade.

The choice is yours. You perpetuate your alien persona, you will be treated as such by the majority. This is the social norm common anywhere on earth, from Beijing to Moscow to Paris to New York to Timbuktu to Pasir Mas.


Anonymous said:-
“In fact, all of us should be labelled as Malaysian. Race/ethnicity should not be highlighted.”


Again agree.

But this raceless “Malaysian” logically CANNOT be someone who views the Malay majority as their enemies; someone who belittles Bahasa Malaysia and views his crippling disability in his national language as a natural matter of fact; someone who foolishly take pride in his grasp of China’s national language and assorted dialects and such important international languages as Tamil and Malayalee; and someone who would cry out loud for the preservation and propagation of some alien, foreign culture that is tenuously linked to him by virtue of some obscure vestige of his ancestry, although many of his kind unknowingly have Bawean, Jakun and Semang blood running in his veins.

Now back to your opening line: “I don't think this article is entirely fair.”

I’m sure many here want to know where is the unfairness?

- In wanting to create a true Bangsa Malaysia that you yourself demand in your pantomime of candlelight vigils and cycletons and what not?
- In giving the non-Malays equal chance and amenities in education by exposing them to a standardised national curriculum and language from Day 1?
- By giving them a sense of belonging as equal partners in this nation that their parents never had?
- In wanting to stem the social hemorrhage of 25-30 thousand annual post-vernacular school dropouts that prematurely flood the labour market because these poor pupils just cannot keep up with the Bahasa Malaysia and English centric curriculum after six years of immersion in the alien Mandarin and Tamil?
- In wanting to create a populace proudly and confidently speaking in one primary tongue?

Where again is this unfairness?

La'kia said...

Chinese people usually call us(non-chinese) LA'KIA. Do you know what its means? Its mean that we as non-chinese are orang kampung,sakai,orang utan and so on. We never gives chinese people an ugly names toward them,but they use to call us la'kia whenever they talk among each other. Their leader(MCA&DAP)always ask us(Bumiputera) not to call them pendatang,kuli lombong or apek tiongkok but how about them? Do they realize that calling us la'kia is some of an example that they were playing racist in their daily life?

Any comment?

La'kia said...

Do you like to be call LA'KIA? Do you know what its mean? La'kia means that we as non-chinese are sakai,orang utan and so on. Chinese people always say this whenever they talk with each other.

What is your comments?

Mohammad Roslan said...

Deminegara,
You're a wonderfull and beautiful person among people living in Malaysia now!.

The use receptive media outlets for racist messages and policies that serve their own and their political parties ambitions.Only through persistent relentless monitoring and public exposure of the media organisation and political elites who exploit racist controlling images.These Racist news paper activity must stop by through social protest off on boycotting the news paper ,litigation and electrol politics.These activities require the backing of education,research and monitoring campaigns that publicize both the racism inherent in political elites discourse and the specific benefits that particular groups derive from them.

So many holding reins of power not spritually aware,

And racism is around me everywhere,

And racism only leads to division and war,
Just goes to show hoe ignorant some.

Anonymous said...

A lot of our problems can be traced to a feeling that there is little LAW or JUSTICE. The rich and powerful (of all races)seem to be able to get away with everything and anything, even murder. This encourages a seige mentality.

I grew up in a Malaya that was friendly, gentle and warm. I spoke Malay, Punjabi and English. I was desperate to learn Hokkien and Tamil so I could converse with all my neighbours. Every language was gift. Malay was not forced on me...I just grew up speaking it, albeit with a strong Bahasa Indonesia touch to it (from my Punjabi grandparents who spoke what was the linguage franca at that time). Of course I had to go to school to learn that "kakak" was elder sister in Malay although it was elder brother in the 'Malay' spoken by my grandparents!

My Malay cikgus encouraged me and did not make fun of the traces of Punjabi in my spoken Malay. Anyway the two languages share so much e.g. the 'meja' in Malay is the Punjabi 'mej'.

For diverse races and peoples to unite, the only option is fairness and justice. If everyone is so treated and seen to be so treated, then you have the beginnings of a sense of belonging. We had that but we appear to have lost it along the way.I think that is what Raja Petra (of Malaysia Today fame) appears to be promoting.

Malaysians must insist that assistance is provided to all on the basis of need. As more Malays are needy it is only fair that bulk of the assistance is provided to help them. And ensure the poor of other races are also sure of help. That will remove the need to look for racist 'heroes'.

We should not fear if some of us or all of us want to learn,speak or think in another language. It is a basic requirement that we also do so that we have a world view that will promote all our people. For example Malays in rural schools deserve a good grounding in English so that they can realise their potential not only in our country but internationally.

Let us de-politicise language by making Chinese, Tamil, Punjabi, Kadazan, French, spainish, etc available in all schools so that these tongues will be seen as merely windows to the world.

Let's also turn a blind eye to religion. If a couple want to get married, let's not be too hard if one want to convert in or out. I know it is hard but we should do it in the inerest of our country. There will less chance for the racists to promote their poisons to Malaysians e.g. if you have a Kelantanese mother-in-law, you will not accept any rubbish that Kelantanese are not deserving of love and respect.

Very difficult but we have to make Malaysia a nation for all by removing the things that are used to divide us.

Old Malaysian.

Anonymous said...

kijangmas u ni pro pr ke pro bn??
- mat care po-

WY said...

Sorry sir..i m late. pLease kindly put your right arm up your posterior, or perhaps remove your brain from that very same location - because you re full of shit.

malaysia is NOT homogenous. LIVE WITH IT. Stop comparing us to Homogenous society like Japan, China and the likes. Why not think about Belgium, Switzerland, Singapore and others which are not homogeneous?

KijangMas said...

Hey WY Kam 斗鸡眼, guess what I found up my finely chiseled butt?

Your HEAD!

Yup, your ugly little Chinky head with that buckteeth and slantees. Yukk! Puke time people ... Talk about living down under huh? Ha ha ha, 丹凤眼 loser!

Of course Malaysia is not homogenous. You some kind of moron to not see it? Do you need special hand-holding, a tongkat, to make you understand the obvious?

BUT that doesn’t mean the Anak Bangsa Malaysia cannot work towards homogenisation of their basic essence, starting with LANGUAGE. Don't tell us you slither around NZ uttering Hokkien phrases to the Kiwis? No? Oh, so you speak English there? But why you don't wanna cakap Melayu here ahh?

But I guess the logic would be beyond a simpleton like you. Yup, its way beyond someone who still insists on attaching alien hieroglyphics to his name and still craves for some obscure ancestral Tong San while exiled on the last stop to PenguinLand.

Please Mr. Butt Head, do stay down there in KiwiLand (yup, Christchurch people need some 刁民 to hate too, you know) and spare pristine Malaysia your filthy paws and toxic footprint.

Good riddance.

Next ......

Anonymous said...

KijangMas,

Let me have a say in this Bangsa Malaysia posting of yours, meant for

Ngnglee and believers of "Malaysian Malaysia",

I have addressed Ngnglee's statement "strong culture will always dominate the weaker one" in
KijangMas' posting on vernacular schools/ "testicular fortitude".

In this posting I would like to take you on your interpretation of the Constitution.

You said Article I stipulates that all persons are equal before the law. You said this is the law. Nobody argues about that.

But you know that there are other Articles of the Constitution, like Article 152 on Bahasa Malaysia and Article 153 on Malay special rights. These are also law and you must respect them.

You said you are patriotic.
Respecting the Constitution and obeying the law is the first ingredient of patriotism. It is our "basic obligation as a citizen", to use your own words.

Why Article 152 and 153 are in the Constitution? We need to go into the circumstances at the time our forefathers set about to get independence from the British.

The non-Malays wanted citizenship and the Malays wanted economic and educational advancement. So they agreed that the non-Malays be given citizenship and the Malays get special rights. These became known as the Social Contract entered into among the races.

Come on la, people. Your forefathers have agreed to these, have them entered in the Constitution and you don't want to follow ah? You have no choice in these matters - they are already enshrined in the Constitution. You have to respect and practise what the Constitution says.

What you can argue is the method of implementation - for example,
NEP weaknesses, whether NEP benefits all Malays (so that less complaints and less demands later on), slow target achievement, etc. But you cannot argue against having the NEP because it was promulgated under Article 153 of the Constitution.

You said your "understanding of Bangsa Malaysia ... is more on achieving mutual understanding and respect and fostering a true working relationship between the rakyat ...". If so, then understand and respect Bahasa Malaysia and Malay special rights. They are, ater all, written in the Constitution and your forefathers have agreed to them.

The Malays have agreed you and your descendents get citizenship in perpetuity. You all have used up your right to citizenship, you all have become citizens for 50 years now. The Malays are just starting to get 20% of corporate wealth - not economic wealth, mind you, because up to now other forms of wealth are not mentioned.

Because Malay rights were the consideration (the quid pro quo) for non-Malay citizenship, those of you who want NEP to go, are you willing to let your citizenship go? Surely not. So, let the NEP stay, and argue only on its method of implementation.

Best wishes.

Anonymous said...

KijangMas,

Re my earlier comment, I should have said "May I" instead of "Let me".

Being engrossed with the issues sometimes blurs one's sense of politeness.

Best wishes.

Anonymous said...

KijangMas,

Another one please, also addressed to

Ngnglee and co,

Constitutional provision on "the legitimate interest of others", the right to study one's mothertongue -

Mandarin is not the mothertongue of most, practically all, Chinese, even in China. It is certainly not the mothertongue of the Chinese in Malaysia. You don't speak Mandarin at home or privately among yourselves.

In south China they speak Cantonese, Fukienese, Hakka (people originally from the north)etc. In north China, they speak a northern dialect, even so, with slight variations according to localities of the vast region e.g Soochow in Shanghai. At the western and the south western borders, they speak Miao, Lolo, Shan, Tai, etc. The experts will tell you that since ancient times, because of its geography and language diversity, China has not been a unity. Then, they made Mandarin the national language, and China was, to a large extent, united.

Why can't we do the same here?

Surely you can't have Mandarin, the official language of China, propagated in this country. Mothertongue may be used but they are Cantonese, Fukienese, Confu, Hakka, etc. How many types of schools do you want? How to get national unity? Remember, the Mainland Chinese themselves brought in a national language to forge unity among the people.

The slogans "Bahasa Jiwa Bangsa", "Satu Bahasa Satu Bangsa" are really meaningful if you think of the above.

Again, it may be due to your
lack of understanding of what constitutes culture, of an unjustified sense of insecurity.
Having got citizenship (agreed to by the Malays under the Social Contract made at Merdeka), if you respect and live by the Constitution (it's the ultimate law of the country), sincerely accept the provisions on the national language and the Malay rights, there is absolutely no reason to feel insecure.

Look people, responsible and grateful Chinese have said the Malays have been "generous enough" - agreeing to non-Malay citizenship at Merdeka, relaxing the citizenship laws for the granting of citizenship certificates after Merdeka. I can produce to you a still-living Registrar of State nationals who personally relaxed the requirement on proficiency in Bahasa, based on policy, in the 1960s.

There are a myriad of other cases
of the Malays being "generous enough". To the extent that many have been asking why the Malays have been over-generous.

For goodness sake, the Chinese who manages my oil palm patch recently told me his daughter with 7As was given a scholarship to study abroad. Who said deserving non-Malays are not given scholarships?
Now, now, if you talk about numbers, I can write yards about Malay sufferings since Long Jaafar found tin in Larut in the 1840s and brought in Chinese from Penang to do the mining.

Be in the mainstream - not in the group of the unreasonable few - and nobody is going to harass you with constant pro-Bangsa Malaysia facts and arguments and no need to feel insecure.

Remember, the Malays have been "generous enough". It's time you all give something in return.

Best wishes.

Yuss said...

Terkesima membaca posting ini. Kagum.

Mengalirkan air mata... Itulah gambaran ketika saya membacanya.

Terasa seperti tidak lagi terasing. Ada lagi insan yang prihatin.

Terima kasih.

yuenshin said...

I stop reading your article halfway (because it is taking too much of my time), but i believe in your core belief when you wrote that very article - we need to have a uniting language and that is Bahasa Malaysia. although i am of chinese descent myself, i do sincerely believe that it is time for us to scrap vernacular schools and start to have a single school system for all to follow. mother tongues should be taught as a subject, but not as a medium of instruction.

Anonymous said...

My Dear Datok,

You are very well carry the article, and you express yourself as a person who travel and see the world and as a very open minded and can I said you call yourself a very advance and can keep up with todays worlds.

But I call you shallow minded Melayu, even you had seen so many throughout the world you think that what other country practice is just that simple by just doing it. OK I do agreed with you, every Malaysian should have only one language and one type of school.

Do every Melayu wanted to build this nation strong and change the policy to run the country?

If yes!, then a new generation must be start from now, and in another 30 years, this country will change to what you have talking about, everyone only speck Bahasa Malaysia only (Melayulah).

This new generation is base on all races in this nation are free to mix their blood and produce new generation without prejudice or what so ever.

Everyone is free to marriage, not matter you are Melayu, Chinese, Indian or Punjab, but with one very important condition, freedom and respect of each believe, no force for taking faith in what ever causes.

Then this people will produce new generation that their blood is mix and become truly Malaysian, No argument about it, No my or your ancestor matter, No you or my culture issue, No what you or I believe in, everyone share only one land, one thought, and all will advance together, and also without you can not mention Allah if you are not muslim (very childish isn't), Allah is the Arab words thats mean God, and what does it mean anyway?

Religion is dirty once it mix with politic, thats is what Malaysia is doing for so many decade, for Thailand and Indonesia no such issue is happening, thats why other nation can build more advance then yours, muslim can marriage with hindu, but both husband and wife is free to choose what to believe, not so complicated after all, don't you think so?

To build strong country, cast away the religion issue, let the people mix their blood, new generation must be generate to save Malaysia.

I read your article, and you are pro-Melayu only and you are not loving your country, think it hard man, you just blind with your eye open, study other nation basic policy, only Malaysia is practicing such non human right policy.

What ever you mention is after the new generation issue, not now or ever if this nation continuing the Islam policy.

Jesus and Nabi Mohamad is trying to lead people to be good man, but after their life, their follower is using this call religion into politic, thats is why for thousand of year till today both side is still killing each other for it, why?

For the sake of Allah, God, Deities and what people believe just keep it to ourself, is what you and I believe, keep it simple, apply it into our daily life, help people thats need, that what you and my believe is all about.

But to build a nation, the Religion is only for the national icon, but no for every rakyat, tell me with country all their citizen having only one believe, you do not think so, am I right again?

And I bet my life that you and all the Melayu would die for it and will not giving in for the sake of you call yourself love this country, and this issue is killing the nation and hold back the development and advancement and also backward the people mind of this nation.

Thanks for you article that let me have the change to express my point of view how to build malaysia strong.

See you in HELL if you disagreed with me.

From Hell Reader

antuhell said...

Hell Reader,

If worth the time, maybe KijangMas and the rest of us will stop by and take a peek to see how are you doing in hell. Anyway, we wont join you... he..he..he..

Anonymous said...

I salute you, Kijang Mas. This is the way to nation building. Yes.

Anonymous said...

to Hell Reader

Are you a god now? People that disagree with you have to go to hell???

I don't understand the point you were trying to make.

KM has not touch anything about religious/religion in this article so why are you making such a statement??? I am confuse.

Thailand and Indonesia being more advance than us? errrr is this correct? what part of this universe are you from? You must have been in hell for so long that you don't even know the "advancement" level of Thailand and Indonesia.

-irazali-

Anonymous said...

Do you realize that Chinese schools and Muslims schools are allowed in the US? But almost everyone wants to speak English well because you need English to get ahead in the world. The reason immigrants embrace the American culture so willingly (not to mention the whole world is embracing the culture as willingly even though they hate the US) is because they have more equal opportunities to pursue the American dream.

In Malaysia, it's different. The status of the Bahasa Malaysia is not like English. The reason that non-Malays stop speaking BM regularly after secondary school is that you use English at work in the private sector and to do business with the outside world. In fact, it's economically more beneficial to know how to speak Chinese being in Asia since who doesn't want to make money selling goods and services to 1 billion people?

Indeed a one-school system is a necessity for unity. Would the Malays agree with making English the medium of instruction? And let everyone learn Malay, Chinese and Tamil as a second and third language as they do in Europe. Is that not a better way to have a more better prepared workforce to achieve the dream of becoming a developed nation?

By the way, Obama grew up with a mostly absent father. Even if he wants to speak Swahili he couldn't have.

emy said...

The key has always been to provide a percieved ability to maintain some form of economic stability....
if u want to keep it together..

Anonymous said...

Baba Penang salutes you the author for bringing up the other side of the story and the sentiments that lies beneath it.

I for one can speak a few Bahasa Melayus, one being my regional Penang Bahasa Melayu without much problem, grew up with it,and the language just latched on to my tongue without much formal training.Magic? No way! It all boils down to attitude.

Do forgive me my dear own kinsmen,but I do share the same disgust as the blogger on those 4th-5th generation Chinese who can't even utter a simple sentence in BM.Yup,it's them politicians & racial supremacists up there who are poisoning the ones downstream.

Readers,do take an oath,we shall always be Malaysians first,and in order to do so,the National Language must be passed on to the generation after us,as important as we would like to pass on the whole bulk of our ancestral heritage to them.

~ Baba Penang

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